America Will No Longer Be the World’s Piggie Bank

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:47 am

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Re: America Will No Longer Be the World’s Piggie Bank

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
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I suppose the solution is to just pretend everything happens in a vacuum then.

I remember this line of logic.

Two hundred years of mercantile trade warfare had nothing to do with the civil war it directly triggered because we don't make connections in this history class.
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Re: America Will No Longer Be the World’s Piggie Bank

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:21 pm

By table linen I assume they mean paper towels. More power to them I say. Not a fan of this stage of the negotiation process regarding our tariff policy. We should all have tariffs for whatever the fuck we want. And we all do.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 pm

If they didn't have a tariff on dairy, I suspect their dairy industry would collapse. It's too easy to transport milk across the border, and our milk cartels (that's really what they are) can be quite efficient.

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Post by C-Mag » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:36 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:59 pm
If they didn't have a tariff on dairy, I suspect their dairy industry would collapse. It's too easy to transport milk across the border, and our milk cartels (that's really what they are) can be quite efficient.
For Farmers, there is no Free Trade on food commodities, it's the one thing world leaders seem to agree on, Food must be kept cheap around the world, and countries and be protectionist as shit when it comes to maintaining their agriculture. Global Wheat Price fixing started in the 30's and were never fucked with in WWII.

Think about that. The power to produce food is probably the biggest power in the world and no one talks about it.
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Post by Kath » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:49 am

C-Mag wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:36 pm
The power to produce food is probably the biggest power in the world and no one talks about it.
... and we are slowly handing over a monopoly on food production to Monsanto. Errr, excuse me, aspirin.
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Post by Zlaxer » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:52 am

Kath wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:49 am
C-Mag wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:36 pm
The power to produce food is probably the biggest power in the world and no one talks about it.
... and we are slowly handing over a monopoly on food production to Monsanto. Errr, excuse me, aspirin.
What do you mean slowly? They already have a monopoly....look at what they do to Non-GMO farmers.....your field gets contaminated...you infringe their patent.

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Post by C-Mag » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:18 am

Canada’s dairy farmers cling to protections as Trump demands concessions
Winnipeg/Chicago | Reuters — Canadian dairy farmers want trade negotiators to keep their hands off the protected sector in increasingly contentious talks with the United States, however loudly U.S. President Donald Trump demands greater access, an executive with Canada’s biggest dairy lobby group said Monday.
The sector, worth $21 billion in farm and processed dairy shipment sales, is the target of blistering verbal attacks and Twitter posts from Trump who complains that Canada’s tariffs, as high as 314 per cent, are unfair to the U.S................

Dairy “should be off the table for these negotiations,” David Wiens, a Manitoba dairy farmer and vice-president of Dairy Farmers of Canada (DFC), said of NAFTA talks.
Canada’s 11,000 dairy farmers are concentrated in vote-rich provinces Quebec and Ontario, giving the industry outsized influence in domestic politics.
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Re: America Will No Longer Be the World’s Piggie Bank

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:35 am

How much do Canadians pay for milk?

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/c ... ted+States

Milk (regular), (1 gallon)
Canada: 8.31 C$ (6.40 $)
USA: 4.13 C$ (3.18 $) -50.28 %

This is what tariffs do. They raise the domestic price of goods to match the import price. That's it. Nothing more. Full stop.
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