How is the Russia Investigation not Serious

[Fife]

[Okeefenokee]

Ooky, if the feds run an investigation like that, they are going to entrap people in process crimes if they want to. All you have to do is mis-remember something, or somebody else contradict you, and boom -- indictment.

These clowns have been rooting through Trump's very extensive business and personal dealings for over a year and found jack-fucking-shit.

Get out of here with your appeal to process crimes as a justification for this farce.

They found nothing.

I bet if they rooted through your life like that they'd find something to prosecute. You know this is true. Yet the same could not be said for Trump. Seriously process that shit. It's unbelievable. The man is clean. I am as shocked as you should be shocked, but instead you embraced delusion.

1. The convictions and indictments have not been merely for misremembering shit. Most of them have been of Russians doing the interference, which was the original subject of the investigation, not Trump. (Just, you know, most times they found a Russian agent or cut out trying to collude to influence the election, they were talking to Trump's campaign).

2. You don't know what they have on Trump, no one does. The reporting looks terrible though - you should check out Trump, Inc. He has run an incredibly secretive company for years but there are still things people have been able to find out that look very, very, very odd on a basic level regarding his deals, and the use or non-use of debt. Like a,maybe he made most of his money doing money laundering for foreign powers level of strange. Reporters don't even have access to what Mueller does.

3. Any competent person doing this would have created a layer of protection between himself and the actors actually engaging in this stuff - so it's reasonable to think that one outcome may be that it's only his aides, campaign manager, lawyer, etc will have real, prosecutable stuff found on them and we will all just have to live with that. We already know much of what these people did.

4. Many legal scholars say there is already ample legal evidence in the public record for obstruction (what they got Clinton on).

You forgot the part where they indicted a company that didn't exist?

[Speaker to Animals]

This is serious, Okee.

[Okeefenokee]

you are a loon. go back to marching

Solid argument, bro

We have been here going over every one of these bullshit stories day by day for the past two years.

You think you're gonna walk in here fresh from your latest pussy hat march and demand that everyone rehash every counter to two years of horseshit because you demand it? Get bent princess.

I met a woman like you at the garage once. Walked inside and announced that she needed help with her car in a garage full of men working on their own cars. Thought we would all drop everything and cater to her needs. Told her where she could find a mechanic.

You want answers to your batshit crazy delusions? Use the search function.

Here's a good place to start.

viewtopic.php?f=63&t=1229

[nmoore63]

This whole thing remind me of how Caesar needed to keep being elected in order to avoid prosecution.

[Kath]

I want evidence and arguments. Like we used to goddamn have. Though I will never be able to rise to the troll levels here, I am still interested in discourse.

Lots of people are. Take DB - he likes honest debate, he just does it while trolling and calling you names. Just shrug it off and move on - it's just what "real manly men" do.

[Okeefenokee]

Was this serious?

A federal judge on Friday harshly rebuked Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team during a hearing for ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort – suggesting they lied about the scope of the investigation, are seeking “unfettered power” and are more interested in bringing down the president.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III told Mueller’s team. “You really care about what information Mr. Manafort can give you to lead you to Mr. Trump and an impeachment, or whatever."

Further, Ellis demanded to see the unredacted “scope memo,” a document outlining the scope of the special counsel’s Russia probe that congressional Republicans have also sought.

[PartyOf5]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... grand-jury

None of the charges against Americans or Trump advisers so far have directly alleged that they worked with Russia to interfere with the campaign.

Other reported focuses of Mueller’s investigation — such as the hacking and leaking of prominent Democrats’ emails and potential obstruction of justice by the Trump administration — have not resulted in any indictments yet.

In other words, they have nothing on Trump or anyone else related to Russia interfering with the election. So no, it's not serious anymore. Shut it the fuck down already.

[Okeefenokee]

I don't think you take Russian facebook memes seriously enough.

[clubgop]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... grand-jury

None of the charges against Americans or Trump advisers so far have directly alleged that they worked with Russia to interfere with the campaign.

Other reported focuses of Mueller’s investigation — such as the hacking and leaking of prominent Democrats’ emails and potential obstruction of justice by the Trump administration — have not resulted in any indictments yet.

In other words, they have nothing on Trump or anyone else related to Russia interfering with the election. So no, it's not serious anymore. Shut it the fuck down already.

When vox tells your leftist ass to calm your tits, you know you have fucked up.