New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:20 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The corporate garbage fire will probably drag Soy Wars out for a few more films, no matter what. They have too much invested in this shit now.
Your vision of Star Wars would be what it was or you want to inject you ideology?

I would produce an original story.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:28 am

I would find an orphan from a sand planet and make them a savior figure. Mix it up a little.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:46 am

You could also make the ultimate feminist Mary Sue character.

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Post by Hastur » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:57 am

Have you seen these East European communist era Star Wars posters? Trippy stuff.

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Hungarian Star Wars poster by Tibor Helényi
Star Wars was released in Hungary for the first time in 1980, three years after it came out in the US. Helényi brought his own vision to the saga with a striking palette of blue, orange and red and some features that fans would decry as certainly not being ‘canon’: Darth Vader’s helmet suddenly has a mouth like the grill of a vintage Cadillac; the Death Star is destroyed via a blast out of the side; and then there’s some scaly lizard creature on the left with a flailing tongue and ganglia and an impressively alien-looking scimitar. No such creature exists in any Star Wars film, but Helényi’s approach is to suggest that such an alien could exist in the world Lucas created. Call it ‘added value’! Or perhaps it’s a reference to how Lucas originally envisioned Han Solo as a lizard creature, before going the more conventional route of casting Harrison Ford to play the character as a human. (Credit: Tibor Helényi)

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Hungarian Star Wars poster by András Felvidéki
Felvidéki liked to wed old-fashioned engraving and etching techniques with trippy, avant-garde content, and the result for Star Wars looks like an illustration that could have been part of Edgar Rice Burroughs’ Under the Moons of Mars serial in 1912. A steampunk-looking starship of a design never seen in the films shines a light on Chewbacca, whose tongue action is most disturbing. The bantha on the left is infinitely more fearsome than anything seen in the film, and C-3PO suddenly looks like he’s swapped parts with The Wizard of Oz’s Tin Man. The idea of situating figures as if they’re ornamental features of a landscape was common in Hungary during this time – just check out this contemporaneous poster for Apocalypse Now that features the back of Marlon Brando’s bald head as the monumental dome of an ancient temple. (Credit: András Felvidéki)

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Russian Star Wars poster by Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev
Star Wars was banned in the Soviet Union until 1990, although a thriving black market bootleg video exchange meant many Soviet citizens had in fact seen the films during the 1980s. Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev created this poster, along with three others (all below), to commemorate the lifting of the ban. Some critics have described Star Wars as a ‘space Western’ but Bokser and Chantsev make visualised the idea. Perhaps they were just ahead of the curve, though – the bounty hunter Cad Bane wears the Star Wars’ version of a cowboy hat on the Star Wars: The Clone Wars TV series and there was a kind of horse-racing in The Last Jedi. (Credit: Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev)

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Russian Star Wars poster by Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev
Bokser and Chantsev strike again: none of these aliens actually appear in Star Wars, but they could have. Bokser and Chantsev’s work is almost like the visual art equivalent of fan fiction. Intriguingly, the recent Star Wars novella collection, Canto Bight, featured a story by Saladin Ahmed called Rules of the Game centred on a pink, one-eyed alien named Kedpin Shoklop who looks much like the creature on the right. (Credit: Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev)

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Russian Star Wars poster by Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev
Where to begin? The odd hieroglyphs around the border? That Vader now has a helmet resembling the face of a jaguar? That he bears a crown of multi-coloured lightsabers? Obviously, nothing here has any relationship to the films – except for that last feature. Before this poster none of the Star Wars films had featured lightsabers of any colour other than blue, green and red. After this poster, the Star Wars prequels and animated TV programmes would introduce lightsabers of different colours, such as Mace Windu’s purple saber. Did this poster have any influence on Lucasfilm’s decision to expand their lightsaber colour palette? Almost assuredly not. But it was an unwitting glimpse of things to come. (Credit: Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev)

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Polish Empire Strikes Back poster by Jakub Erol
Would you know this poster was for The Empire Strikes Back, if the actors’ names weren’t listed at the bottom? Looking more like one of Der Spiegel’s Donald Trump-themed cover illustrations, Jakub Erol’s take on Star Wars’s first sequel evokes Constructivism – a graphic style preferred by early Soviet propagandists anyone in the Eastern Bloc would have associated with authoritarianism. Erol was a prolific poster designer in Poland, and he gravitated to simple, stark images that instantly communicate a powerful idea: his poster for the Czech drama Days of Betrayal, about the rise of Nazism and the appeasement efforts of Neville Chamberlain, featured skull-tipped matchsticks arranged to form a swastika. (Credit: Jakub Erol)

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Polish Empire Strikes Back poster by Miroslaw Lakomski
Lakomski opted for a more direct approach to the film than Erol. With colourful circles recalling Piet Mondrian and Saul Bass, this poster presents The Empire Strikes Back’s AT-AT walkers and Yoda. But look closer at Yoda: most of his facial features are rendered in black and white, his expression neutral, his gaze off-centre as if he’s looking to the horizon. It’s a classic pose for a heroic sage, but it also looks strikingly similar to Jim Fitzpatrick’s iconic poster of Che Guevara from 1968. A figure from an American film series rendered like a hero of global socialist revolution? A suggestion that aligning with US-backed, capitalist culture was the new rebellion. (Credit: Miroslaw Lakomski)

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Hungarian Empire Strikes Back poster by Tibor Helényi
Tibor Helényi returned to create a poster for The Empire Strikes Back. No addition of a strange lizard creature here. Instead we get an incredibly detailed Imperial Star Destroyer in the upper left corner, and a strikingly stylised Vader on the lower right. He appears to have a coterie of similarly mechanized henchmen alongside him – if Episode IX should finally reveal the Knights of Ren, let us hope they are half as cool as these baddies. Completing the dynamic, diagonal composition is a Goth AT-AT lurching forward into the frame like an unstoppable steampunk force of nature. Helényi’s work here seems to anticipate the underrated brooding aesthetic artist Cam Kennedy deployed for the Dark Empire graphic novel in 1993, which imagined the resurrection of Emperor Palpatine in a fresh clone body and Luke’s attempts to learn more about the Jedi. (Credit: Tibor Helényi)

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Russian Return of the Jedi poster by Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev
Jabba the Hutt’s monumental head is one of the twin poles of Bokser and Chantsev’s poster commemorating the conclusion of the original trilogy – the other is, of course, the Death Star, with star streaks like those seen when the Millennium Falcon jumps to lightspeed in the middle. It’s a fascinating juxtaposition: do the two orbs, one of a moon-sized weapon, the other of a gangster’s head, suggest that authoritarianism enables Hutt-like corruption? A lot to ponder here. (Credit: Yuri Bokser and Alexander Chantsev)

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Polish Return of the Jedi poster by Witold Dybowski
The destruction of Vader’s helmet here is certainly a spoiler for the end of Return of the Jedi – but it also suggests the destroyed version of Vader’s helmet that we wouldn’t see until The Force Awakens 31 years after Polish artist Dybowski created this image in 1984. Look closer, though, and you’ll see that various cogs and spools that make up a film camera are incorporated into the design of the helmet. Is this a subtle commentary that Star Wars had obliterated cinema and that the global film industry would never be the same? Or is it suggesting that cinema itself is a kind of Vader figure – it can be a force for good or a force for harm, depending upon the intent of the film-maker. (Credit: Witold Dybowski)
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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:56 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:The corporate garbage fire will probably drag Soy Wars out for a few more films, no matter what. They have too much invested in this shit now.
Your vision of Star Wars would be what it was or you want to inject you ideology?

I would produce an original story.
So you would leave the big 3 alone?

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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:31 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: Your vision of Star Wars would be what it was or you want to inject you ideology?

I would produce an original story.
So you would leave the big 3 alone?

Yep.

That stuff doesn't even speak to us in the same way any longer. We need new stories that speak to the cultural and historical forces that shape our lives today.

Otherwise, make something totally alien and speculative, but we all know Hollywood would never do that today.

I read a lot of SF. Lots of novels coming out lately would make great films.

The problem is that you need to get these corporate/SJW directors the hell away from the business. I have a feeling Ready Player One is going to suck balls because of the SJW cancer as well. The actual novel would make a fantastic film.

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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:59 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

I would produce an original story.
So you would leave the big 3 alone?

Yep.

That stuff doesn't even speak to us in the same way any longer. We need new stories that speak to the cultural and historical forces that shape our lives today.

Otherwise, make something totally alien and speculative, but we all know Hollywood would never do that today.

I read a lot of SF. Lots of novels coming out lately would make great films.

The problem is that you need to get these corporate/SJW directors the hell away from the business. I have a feeling Ready Player One is going to suck balls because of the SJW cancer as well. The actual novel would make a fantastic film.
I fail to see how endorsing a monarch spoke to 70s America. I never saw SW as commentary on the Real World.

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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:33 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote: So you would leave the big 3 alone?

Yep.

That stuff doesn't even speak to us in the same way any longer. We need new stories that speak to the cultural and historical forces that shape our lives today.

Otherwise, make something totally alien and speculative, but we all know Hollywood would never do that today.

I read a lot of SF. Lots of novels coming out lately would make great films.

The problem is that you need to get these corporate/SJW directors the hell away from the business. I have a feeling Ready Player One is going to suck balls because of the SJW cancer as well. The actual novel would make a fantastic film.
I fail to see how endorsing a monarch spoke to 70s America. I never saw SW as commentary on the Real World.
You don't exactly have your finger on the pulse of America.
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Post by C-Mag » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:20 pm

Good Article, how the current people controlling Star Wars see things strictly through affirmative action. They calculate the percentage of women, men and non-white speaking roles......... sounds like a great way to make an engaging story.

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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:48 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Yep.

That stuff doesn't even speak to us in the same way any longer. We need new stories that speak to the cultural and historical forces that shape our lives today.

Otherwise, make something totally alien and speculative, but we all know Hollywood would never do that today.

I read a lot of SF. Lots of novels coming out lately would make great films.

The problem is that you need to get these corporate/SJW directors the hell away from the business. I have a feeling Ready Player One is going to suck balls because of the SJW cancer as well. The actual novel would make a fantastic film.
I fail to see how endorsing a monarch spoke to 70s America. I never saw SW as commentary on the Real World.
You don't exactly have your finger on the pulse of America.
I did not conclude that Trump could not win unlike many others.

Would you address the argument?