What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:41 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The nation can print more money and just drown us in inflation to solve that.

California is up shit creek. Along with Michigan and Illinois. Probably New York too.
Also, Kansas, Nebraska, and a host of other Red states.

I see what you're doing there... :ugeek:
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:05 pm

Data is beautiful

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-l ... ment/2700/

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:07 pm

AndrewBennett wrote:Data is beautiful

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-l ... ment/2700/

Can we get an HTML embed function?
Shit.. that's gotta hurt.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:32 pm

AndrewBennett wrote:Data is beautiful

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-l ... ment/2700/

Can we get an HTML embed function?

Without context it's fucking meaningless.

Where is the money going?

If you are going to include interstate, oil pipeline, and other federal expenditures or su sidies, then fuck off with that weak shit.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:43 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
AndrewBennett wrote:Data is beautiful

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-l ... ment/2700/

Can we get an HTML embed function?

Without context it's fucking meaningless.

Where is the money going?

If you are going to include interstate, oil pipeline, and other federal expenditures or su sidies, then fuck off with that weak shit.
Get past your prejudices and dig down into the data, its all there and sortable.

The biggest takers, both by individual residents and the states themselves, is all spelled out right there.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:48 pm

You have to account for what that money is used for. Most of it in very rural states likely goes to maintaining things like the interstate system, which is a national asset, not a state asset. It's not like the people living out in Montana are benefiting from it. That has a lot to do with the commerce that your state depends upon, traveling straight through and past those people.

Give me an accounting of that money.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:44 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:You have to account for what that money is used for. Most of it in very rural states likely goes to maintaining things like the interstate system, which is a national asset, not a state asset. It's not like the people living out in Montana are benefiting from it. That has a lot to do with the commerce that your state depends upon, traveling straight through and past those people.

Give me an accounting of that money.
I don't think you're reading the data right. My state does not depend on Federal money, the other states depend on the Federal money taken from us.

Also, there's another column for federal money taken by individuals, an accounting which is definitely not something like the Interstate Highway system.

California is 36 out of 50 in individual dependency on the Federal Government, and 42 out of 50 in State dependency on Fed.

My point is that I'd be really cautious before parroting hard right talking points about California without knowing the whole story.

Besides, if we're so weak here, why is everyone so scared of our power when we destroy the Electoral College. We're an extremely rich state with a high population because of the economy here.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:49 pm

You are being mislead by dishonest people.

Give us an accounting of what funds to which they refer when they say "red states are taking our money". Guaranteed most of that has nothing to do with what you imply.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:59 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:You are being mislead by dishonest people.

Give us an accounting of what funds to which they refer when they say "red states are taking our money". Guaranteed most of that has nothing to do with what you imply.
You're demanding a standard of evidence which you are unwilling to provide. Find it yourself.
The federal and state budgets are all public record - and they do have interstate highways in Montana, which are funded almost exclusively by the federal gasoline tax - as managed by the Federal Highway Commission, and Dept of Transportation (under Secretary of the Interior).

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:40 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:


So much for "show your work".

It's obviously a bullshit figure that includes national infrastructure spending in sparsely populated states. If the actual accounting of the numbers made the case, you better believe these progressive "think tanks" would use that instead.