What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:03 am

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Speaker to Animals wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... o-crumble/

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"Personal Income Tax collection deficit" is not a state budgetary deficit. Cheap propaganda.
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“Yes, the state’s budget is balanced if you are looking at what they are required to spend cash on this year, but not when you look at their expenses,” [/b]said Gabe Petek, a credit analyst with Standard & Poor’s.
What in the fuck is that supposed to mean??
Prospect of taxes sours budget support, poll finds Lawmakers stand and greet Gov. Jerry Brown as he walks across the floor of the State Assembly to deliver the annual State of the State address at the State Capitol in Sacramento, Calif. on Thursday, Jan. 21, 2016. Jerry Brown says state must pay debt, new taxes on horizon Governor Jerry Brown arrives to delivers his State of the State speech

The high debt and unfunded liabilities have resulted in the state’s rating lagging behind other states, Petek says. California saw its bond rating rise last year from A+ to AA-, the highest level the state has had in 14 years. Good bond ratings are a sign of a strong budget and financial management and allow states to pay lower interest rates when selling bonds.

“Compared to other states, though, California has one of the lower ratings,” Petek said.

And the reason is clear, he said. It’s California’s debt and liabilities that are concerning financial analysts, particularly the state’s rapidly growing unfunded retiree health care costs, which grew more than 80 percent over the past decade. California has promised $74 billion more in health and dental benefits to current and retired state workers than the state has put aside.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/art ... 812264.php
None of this implies 'functionally bankrupt'. They don't have money allocated for expenses that they've legislated for themselves. That's a pretty far fucking cry from 'can't pay our debts'.

If you are in credit card debt to the tune of ten times or more your annual income, and all you can manage to do is pay the interest each month, then you are functionally bankrupt. You can go to a bankruptcy court and you will get that debt discharged because there exists no practical means for you to pay the debt. That's California right now.

They are over 400 billion dollars on the hook for unfunded liabilities (and growing). As their welfare state expands, those unfunded liabilities will grow.

Detroit was merely the canary in the coal mine.


No real way to fix it other than to renege on those pensions.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Ex-California » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:56 am

CALPERS is a mess, mainly because of the "hero" police and firefighters with two or even three pensions. Right wing rags love to call on "state workers'" pensions but the big problem is not your road worker, its your uniformed hero.

Otherwise, we're doing great. Losing a quarter on every dollar we contribute to the taker states doesn't help either.
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:27 am

Yeah, I love all the hero firemen who get it written into their contract that they have to be called on every emergency, even when there is no fire, to justify their budgets, and then the actual fire calls are mostly some blue hair burning toast. Meanwhile CalTrans workers are getting creamed by assholes on the side of the road, blamed for the privilege and told they are bankrupting the state. Like the commerce that makes us money comes from buying la-z-boys for fire stations and not our highways.

rant over.
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:35 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... o-crumble/

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The Bart is more like an op ed site i am pretty sure.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:48 am

Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... o-crumble/

Time required to locate information: ~3 seconds.
Time required to dismiss fake news site:~none
The Bart is more like an op ed site i am pretty sure.
Sorry I don't know what op ed means, care to elaborate?
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Hwen Hoshino » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:58 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
Time required to dismiss fake news site:~none
The Bart is more like an op ed site i am pretty sure.
Sorry I don't know what op ed means, care to elaborate?
Use the search function.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:08 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Hwen Hoshino wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
Time required to dismiss fake news site:~none
The Bart is more like an op ed site i am pretty sure.
Sorry I don't know what op ed means, care to elaborate?
Opinion editorial. Basically the personal thoughts or ramblings of an individual.
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:09 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... o-crumble/

Time required to locate information: ~3 seconds.
"Personal Income Tax collection deficit" is not a state budgetary deficit. Cheap propaganda.
Speaker to Animals wrote:
What in the fuck is that supposed to mean??
None of this implies 'functionally bankrupt'. They don't have money allocated for expenses that they've legislated for themselves. That's a pretty far fucking cry from 'can't pay our debts'.

If you are in credit card debt to the tune of ten times or more your annual income, and all you can manage to do is pay the interest each month, then you are functionally bankrupt. You can go to a bankruptcy court and you will get that debt discharged because there exists no practical means for you to pay the debt. That's California right now.

They are over 400 billion dollars on the hook for unfunded liabilities (and growing). As their welfare state expands, those unfunded liabilities will grow.

Detroit was merely the canary in the coal mine.


No real way to fix it other than to renege on those pensions.
The entire nation is exactly that far in debt. Cali is just a slice of it. That national deficit is not fiction.
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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:10 pm

The nation can print more money and just drown us in inflation to solve that.

California is up shit creek. Along with Michigan and Illinois. Probably New York too.

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Re: What effect would a succesfull Calexit have on the foreign sales of US movies?

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:10 pm

Thanks mate.
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