The Mess

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Re: The Mess

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:27 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:17 pm
Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:15 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:09 pm


No. The Soviets worshiped the Midwest.

The Midwest is the Superfarm for a Post Scarcity Utopia.

They just didn't have the cash on hand to get one of their own going.
Yes, but you mistake my use of the term of art "hate."

The federal city, whether working out of Moscow, Paris, London, Rome, or Washington City, always has the same lust.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens hyper territorial apex predator, it's baked into the DNA.

You can't fight it, all you can do is harness it to reach for the stars.

Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility.
I think reality (DNA) models Kansas more than the federal city, FWIW. Anarchy is reality.

Fermi might delay the inevitable trip to the stars and beyond, but I can accept that in the short term. Baby steps.

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Re: The Mess

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:27 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:17 pm
Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:15 pm


Yes, but you mistake my use of the term of art "hate."

The federal city, whether working out of Moscow, Paris, London, Rome, or Washington City, always has the same lust.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens hyper territorial apex predator, it's baked into the DNA.

You can't fight it, all you can do is harness it to reach for the stars.

Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility.
I think reality (DNA) models Kansas more than the federal city, FWIW. Anarchy is reality.

Fermi might delay the inevitable trip to the stars and beyond, but I can accept that in the short term. Baby steps.
There is only space for anarchy, in the Sea of Tranquility, Eagle One reaches for the stars, to be free.
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Re: The Mess

Post by heydaralon » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:30 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:11 pm

Because the collapse of the Soviet Union was a catastrophe.

It's like Weimar Republic.

They capitulated and their Empire collapsed and it turned out to be Hell on Earth.

Long live the Empire, what were we thinking?

Save us, Koba, from the Mahanian Eternal Seapower upon our necks.
Do you think the IMF played a serious part in fucking Russia up in the 90's? I have read some horror stories about this, but idk if that is just propaganda.
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Re: The Mess

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:33 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 pm
Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:27 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:17 pm

Homo Sapiens Sapiens hyper territorial apex predator, it's baked into the DNA.

You can't fight it, all you can do is harness it to reach for the stars.

Appomattox Court House to the Sea of Tranquility.
I think reality (DNA) models Kansas more than the federal city, FWIW. Anarchy is reality.

Fermi might delay the inevitable trip to the stars and beyond, but I can accept that in the short term. Baby steps.
There is only space for anarchy, in the Sea of Tranquility, Eagle One reaches for the stars, to be free.
Federal city might just be a useful tool in propagating our DNA in a weird way. Either way, the ultimate outcome is not in doubt.

Maybe we should just get the available bags. I don't think Diogenes considered himself to be some kind of end result

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Re: The Mess

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:45 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:33 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:28 pm
Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:27 pm


I think reality (DNA) models Kansas more than the federal city, FWIW. Anarchy is reality.

Fermi might delay the inevitable trip to the stars and beyond, but I can accept that in the short term. Baby steps.
There is only space for anarchy, in the Sea of Tranquility, Eagle One reaches for the stars, to be free.
Federal city might just be a useful tool in propagating our DNA in a weird way. Either way, the ultimate outcome is not in doubt.

Maybe we should just get the available bags. I don't think Diogenes considered himself to be some kind of end result
I do not chafe against Manifest Destiny, waste of time and energy that.

I'm a hedonist, I just chill on my deck and enjoy the view.

Space programs gonna space program, doesn't crimp my style.
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Re: The Mess

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:54 pm

Bacon wrapped rainbow trout grilled, on a bed of rice, sea salt, lemon, thyme, asparagus and chopped salad.

Hollandia dutch blond chasers, buck ninety a pint.

God bless American Hegenomy.

:toasts:
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Re: The Mess

Post by Fife » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:54 pm
Bacon wrapped rainbow trout grilled, on a bed of rice, sea salt, lemon, thyme, asparagus and chopped salad.

Hollandia dutch blond chasers, buck ninety a pint.

God bless American Hegenomy.

:toasts:
I'll toast every bit of that.

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Re: The Mess

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:09 pm

Fife wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:01 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:54 pm
Bacon wrapped rainbow trout grilled, on a bed of rice, sea salt, lemon, thyme, asparagus and chopped salad.

Hollandia dutch blond chasers, buck ninety a pint.

God bless American Hegenomy.

:toasts:
I'll toast every bit of that.
It's getting a little chilly now, so I've taken it downstairs to the patio.

Outdoor room with outdoor gas fireplace.

Manifest Destiny, what's not to love?
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Re: The Mess

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:17 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:30 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:11 pm

Because the collapse of the Soviet Union was a catastrophe.

It's like Weimar Republic.

They capitulated and their Empire collapsed and it turned out to be Hell on Earth.

Long live the Empire, what were we thinking?

Save us, Koba, from the Mahanian Eternal Seapower upon our necks.
Do you think the IMF played a serious part in fucking Russia up in the 90's? I have read some horror stories about this, but idk if that is just propaganda.
I don't think it was a conspiracy like the Russians do.

It was simply the price of socialism.

The Russians however, don't feel like they deserved it.

So now they are revanchist against America as their scapegoat.

Socialists will bankrupt themselves in the end, but it's not like they will take responsibility for that.

It's always somebody elses fault, the Imperialists sabotaged them or whatever.
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Re: The Mess

Post by kybkh » Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:00 am

“I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life, nonprofits, businesses, the private sector, universities to try to bring more and more Americans together around what I think is a unifying theme..." - Obama