The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by C-Mag » Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:42 am

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DBTrek wrote:Yeah, I’ve given the Judge some consideration. Wonder what the recoil is like tho.

The .410 recoil is not much. I'm leery of a snub-nosed .410 being of much use for self-defense. Makes for a decent snake gun out in the woods or on the lake, though.
They make a long barrell version too. I think a 6 inch barrell. I know the short barrell version has a man sized pattern at 35m
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Hastur » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:36 pm

What about the Kel-Tec KSG Tactical?
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:56 pm

Hastur wrote:What about the Kel-Tec KSG Tactical?

Can I get that at Walmart on sale for $350?

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:36 pm

I'd say .410-00 packs plenty of punch, but I don't buy that it gives you a better chance of dropping a man at CQ than .38 spec/.357 mag

At that range, if you're gonna miss, you're gonna miss either way, if you're gonna hit, you're gonna hit either way, and if you're gonna wing em, better to wing em with the full measure rather than just a pellet.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:40 pm

The Hickock video shows a lot of scatter too.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:43 pm

If winging them buys you time for a second shot then it’s better than a miss.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:47 pm

The principle utility of the Judge would be that it allows you to have multiple types of loads, so you could have a less lethal opener, followed by buck, then slug, same as the full sized pump.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:47 pm


Decent spread at 15’, depending on ammo.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:52 pm

DBTrek wrote:If winging them buys you time for a second shot then it’s better than a miss.
/shrug
From one side of the room to the other? I'm not gonna miss from there.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Hastur » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:57 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hastur wrote:What about the Kel-Tec KSG Tactical?

Can I get that at Walmart on sale for $350?
I thought it was a matter of life or death. :shrug:
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