:shrug: I'm pretty sure you'll find that a simple stacking method uses a lot less space, but none my biz, I guess. Nothing's getting into those cans, and they can sit there for decades.Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Those racks are made for moving around a smooth floor. You really don't need all that just to hold your cans. Hell, you could stack them on the floor in the basement and be done. If you want it to look nice, you don't get a commercial steel rack.Speaker to Animals wrote:
If you want. A huge rack for less than $200 that automatically cycles the cans top to bottom is pretty nice. Most of us don't have a machine shop in the garage.
Also, if you're going to use the canned goods all the time, you're better off canning your own in big mason jars.
LOL
There is no way I could store as much as I do in the space that I store it without one of those racks.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nah, carbs are a super labor intensive source of nutrition.
High protein is the way to go in an emergency... you just have to be a lot less picky about your protein sources.
A lot less picky.
Meat and Fat are often not in people long term food storage plans. Doesn't have to be. Man has been storing protein through curing, smoking, and canning. It can be an enjoyable seasonal hobby. Plus you can make great stuff like Proscuitto
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I really wish I knew how to do that... mmmm.C-Mag wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nah, carbs are a super labor intensive source of nutrition.
High protein is the way to go in an emergency... you just have to be a lot less picky about your protein sources.
A lot less picky.
Meat and Fat are often not in people long term food storage plans. Doesn't have to be. Man has been storing protein through curing, smoking, and canning. It can be an enjoyable seasonal hobby. Plus you can make great stuff like Proscuitto
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GrumpyCatFace wrote::shrug: I'm pretty sure you'll find that a simple stacking method uses a lot less space, but none my biz, I guess. Nothing's getting into those cans, and they can sit there for decades.Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Those racks are made for moving around a smooth floor. You really don't need all that just to hold your cans. Hell, you could stack them on the floor in the basement and be done. If you want it to look nice, you don't get a commercial steel rack.
Also, if you're going to use the canned goods all the time, you're better off canning your own in big mason jars.
LOL
There is no way I could store as much as I do in the space that I store it without one of those racks.
Sure, now you have a #10 can tower. Too bad it's only feasible to get the cans off the top.. God forbid the tower collapses on a child.
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Well, assuming that you don't have 100 different kinds of them, it should be pretty simple to stack vertically, and access whatever you want.Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote::shrug: I'm pretty sure you'll find that a simple stacking method uses a lot less space, but none my biz, I guess. Nothing's getting into those cans, and they can sit there for decades.Speaker to Animals wrote:
LOL
There is no way I could store as much as I do in the space that I store it without one of those racks.
Sure, now you have a #10 can tower. Too bad it's only feasible to get the cans off the top.. God forbid the tower collapses on a child.
Those racks are pretty easy to pull over too, and much more 'climbable' in a kids mind. They're actually pretty dangerous.
Save your money, dude.
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:Well, assuming that you don't have 100 different kinds of them, it should be pretty simple to stack vertically, and access whatever you want.Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
:shrug: I'm pretty sure you'll find that a simple stacking method uses a lot less space, but none my biz, I guess. Nothing's getting into those cans, and they can sit there for decades.
Sure, now you have a #10 can tower. Too bad it's only feasible to get the cans off the top.. God forbid the tower collapses on a child.
Those racks are pretty easy to pull over too, and much more 'climbable' in a kids mind. They're actually pretty dangerous.
Save your money, dude.
Why wouldn't I have many different kinds of them?
I have two kinds of flour, rice, oats, something like four or five kinds of beans, four kinds of meats, two kinds of sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt, about five kinds of vegetables, three kinds of fruit. I am just going to stack all that shit in the corner of the room like a #10 Jenga tower?
Nah. I will just use racks..
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Well, if you don’t have a basement, then buy or build a sturdy rack space, I guess. Don’t go with a rolling rack that’s going to collapse in a few years and kill you.Speaker to Animals wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Well, assuming that you don't have 100 different kinds of them, it should be pretty simple to stack vertically, and access whatever you want.Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sure, now you have a #10 can tower. Too bad it's only feasible to get the cans off the top.. God forbid the tower collapses on a child.
Those racks are pretty easy to pull over too, and much more 'climbable' in a kids mind. They're actually pretty dangerous.
Save your money, dude.
Why wouldn't I have many different kinds of them?
I have two kinds of flour, rice, oats, something like four or five kinds of beans, four kinds of meats, two kinds of sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt, about five kinds of vegetables, three kinds of fruit. I am just going to stack all that shit in the corner of the room like a #10 Jenga tower?
Nah. I will just use racks..
I’d recommend putting it all in the attic or something though, out of sight.
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You are talking about the recipe. I am talking about the source.C-Mag wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nah, carbs are a super labor intensive source of nutrition.
High protein is the way to go in an emergency... you just have to be a lot less picky about your protein sources.
A lot less picky.
Meat and Fat are often not in people long term food storage plans. Doesn't have to be. Man has been storing protein through curing, smoking, and canning. It can be an enjoyable seasonal hobby. Plus you can make great stuff like Proscuitto
(It was a very clever cannibalism joke, and you ruined it with your actual survival skills.)
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GrumpyCatFace wrote:I really wish I knew how to do that... mmmm.C-Mag wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nah, carbs are a super labor intensive source of nutrition.
High protein is the way to go in an emergency... you just have to be a lot less picky about your protein sources.
A lot less picky.
Meat and Fat are often not in people long term food storage plans. Doesn't have to be. Man has been storing protein through curing, smoking, and canning. It can be an enjoyable seasonal hobby. Plus you can make great stuff like Proscuitto
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It's a great start in understanding how curing of foods was developed and the basics of how to do it.
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Yeah, I kind of figured you had your inner Hannibal Lector on. I was just pointing out that if you learned this now and get some protein stored away you can pass on the Liver, Cianti and Fava Beans.Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:You are talking about the recipe. I am talking about the source.C-Mag wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nah, carbs are a super labor intensive source of nutrition.
High protein is the way to go in an emergency... you just have to be a lot less picky about your protein sources.
A lot less picky.
Meat and Fat are often not in people long term food storage plans. Doesn't have to be. Man has been storing protein through curing, smoking, and canning. It can be an enjoyable seasonal hobby. Plus you can make great stuff like Proscuitto
(It was a very clever cannibalism joke, and you ruined it with your actual survival skills.)
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I understand Donner Pass snowed over earlier this year than the year of the famous dining expedition.
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