Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

[Penner]

IPAs and pale ales are better:

[SuburbanFarmer]

Read about what happened as a result of the last Homestead Act in the Great Depression.

You're talking about the Dust Bowl? Yeah, that will happen without rotation/irrigation/fertilization. Doesn't link up to your idea about the Three Sisters tho.

What do you mean? I am pretty sure three sisters requires you to leave the soil fallow for at least one year too.

Three sisters might save you from having to rotate crops, but it doesn't save you from having to leave the land fallow every few seasons.

It's also pretty limited. You seem to get a lot of three different foods, but most of us want other things. Potatoes, wheat, spinach, carrots..

Well, I'm working it into the rotation next year. For winter, I'm putting my onions and garlic where the wheat was, and winter wheat where everything else was. In spring, I'll do 3 sisters where the winter wheat was, and everything else where the onions were.

Dust bowls (erosion) are a pretty extreme example of topsoil loss from over-tilling, drought conditions, and no surrounding trees to break the wind. I've got all 3 covered pretty nicely here. Hoping to do a no-till garden in the future, just a matter of securing enough leaves/mulch/straw to cover it all.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Estrogen mimickers. Bad stuff. *chugs beer*

You literally need hops to make beer.

Don't know a lot about it, but I'm pretty sure that's true.. Even wheat beer requires some hops.

[Speaker to Animals]

Negative. Hops was added later in the medieval period. We used to make it mostly with oats or rye. Our English ancestors used to make an oatmeal stout each week. Most houses had their own process.

I am not a beer expert or anything. I just remember this from reading up on medieval history, specifically what life was like for the average bloke.

[Speaker to Animals]

Also, no way the Egyptians knew about hops and their commoners practically lived on beer.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Negative. Hops was added later in the medieval period. We used to make it mostly with oats or rye. Our English ancestors used to make an oatmeal stout each week. Most houses had their own process.

I am not a beer expert or anything. I just remember this from reading up on medieval history, specifically what life was like for the average bloke.

Well yeah, we're discussing modern beer. You could call that spit-brew in South America "beer" as well.

[Penner]

Negative. Hops was added later in the medieval period. We used to make it mostly with oats or rye. Our English ancestors used to make an oatmeal stout each week. Most houses had their own process.

I am not a beer expert or anything. I just remember this from reading up on medieval history, specifically what life was like for the average bloke.

Sounds like ale and not really what we know of beer today. I mean if I am going to try to live off the grid I would rather try to have my creature comforts as close as I can get, by myself. Meaning my beer will have hops in them.

Although, at some point, I want to learn how to make mead. All I really know that it involves honey and that is basically it.

[Speaker to Animals]

Negative. Hops was added later in the medieval period. We used to make it mostly with oats or rye. Our English ancestors used to make an oatmeal stout each week. Most houses had their own process.

I am not a beer expert or anything. I just remember this from reading up on medieval history, specifically what life was like for the average bloke.

Sounds like ale and not really what we know of beer today. I mean if I am going to try to live off the grid I would rather try to have my creature comforts as close as I can get, by myself. Meaning my beer will have hops in them.

Although, at some point, I want to learn how to make mead. All I really know that it involves honey and that is basically it.

No. It's still beer. Beer was first recorded by the Egyptians as far as I know, and they had no idea what hops were.

I think people today would call medieval beer a "stout". Both ales and stouts are kinds of beer. They aren't something other than beer. The beer you are thinking of is probably a lager.

Again, I don't really give a shit about beer, honestly. I am just relating what I learned from history. Most of Northern Europe used oats and rye for a long time. It doesn't last long, though, so they every house had a near constant brewing going on.

[TheReal_ND]

It's one of the oldest pieces of texts we have. It's Sumerian.

"Beer. It is good."

[SuburbanFarmer]

Negative. Hops was added later in the medieval period. We used to make it mostly with oats or rye. Our English ancestors used to make an oatmeal stout each week. Most houses had their own process.

I am not a beer expert or anything. I just remember this from reading up on medieval history, specifically what life was like for the average bloke.

Sounds like ale and not really what we know of beer today. I mean if I am going to try to live off the grid I would rather try to have my creature comforts as close as I can get, by myself. Meaning my beer will have hops in them.

Although, at some point, I want to learn how to make mead. All I really know that it involves honey and that is basically it.

No. It's still beer. Beer was first recorded by the Egyptians as far as I know, and they had no idea what hops were.

I think people today would call medieval beer a "stout". Both ales and stouts are kinds of beer. They aren't something other than beer. The beer you are thinking of is probably a lager.

Again, I don't really give a shit about beer, honestly. I am just relating what I learned from history. Most of Northern Europe used oats and rye for a long time. It doesn't last long, though, so they every house had a near constant brewing going on.

I do know that hops are necessary to preserve it long term. The English kept getting spoiled beer in India, until they discovered this, which is why India Pale Ale is so hoppy.