US Voting Qualifications Thread
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I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
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WTF is wrong with you?Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
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You said something that made me think that. Some comment about seeing all the family pictures with all the kids making you miss having little ones around. I thought it meant your kids grew up.Penner wrote:WTF is wrong with you?Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
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We're going to need to see pics to straighten this out.
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So...so many thingsPenner wrote:WTF is wrong with you?Okeefenokee wrote:I used to think you were an old grandma suffering from empty nest syndrome.
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I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxesOkeefenokee wrote:It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.California wrote:You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.Penner wrote:
I don't own land, yet, nor have any children, yet, BUT I do pay taxes. Why is it that landowners and/or parents so special enough to fuck over a good percentage of people for no other reason than having different circumstances in life than you?
If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
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Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.California wrote:I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxesOkeefenokee wrote:It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.California wrote: You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.
If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
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No. That's not the point.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.California wrote:I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxesOkeefenokee wrote:
It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.
If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
People need to be paying into the system if they want to participate in the system
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I understand.California wrote:I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxesOkeefenokee wrote:It depends on what type of taxes you're talking about paying, and what types of issues that qualifies you to vote on.California wrote: You're preaching to the choir here. I believe that paying taxes is enough to derive enfranchisement.
If I pay sales taxes when I'm buying a strip of scratch-offs, a 40, and a vanilla blunt wrap on my ebt, does that qualify me to tell property owners how much welfare they should give me through their property taxes?
If walmart is the largest employer in a small town, and in many cases it is, then all of those people are paying income taxes. If meth addiction is also prevalent in that small town, which in many cases it is, and if a large number of the people in that small town also receive welfare, which in many cases they do, I don't think the simple bullet point about them paying income taxes is enough to erase all other issues.
I agree with speaker that simply owning property alone isn't the only thing to look at, but in a local city council meeting, or in a municipal vote on a bill or tax, I wouldn't put the walmart employees on even footing with the property owners and local business owners.
I think most people understand why we don't let children drive corvettes on the freeway, and why we don't let adults who get too many DUIs have their license back. Different states pick different heights to place those bars, but they all agree those lines need to be defined.
Getting behind the wheel of a city, state, or nation is just as legitimate an issue to restrict as is driving a vehicle. And I'm not opposed to breaking up certain types of votes for different voters in the same way that we break up driving certain types of vehicles for different drivers.
Just because you can drive a car doesn't mean you are qualified to drive a big rig.
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Every time you purchase anything, and pay a tax, you are paying into the system.California wrote:No. That's not the point.GrumpyCatFace wrote:Then just institute a land/wealth requirement. Don't beat around the bush about it.California wrote: I was thinking income/property taxes, etc. Not consumption taxes
People need to be paying into the system if they want to participate in the system