Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Post by C-Mag » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:37 am

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GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
There are many different strains of yeast, because there are many different uses for yeast.
I've watched detainees make wine just by putting bread on top of the mix, there was enough active yeast in store bought bread to start the reaction.

But remember folks, JWR says making alcohol is not a good thing. :roll:
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Okeefenokee wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
There are many different strains of yeast, because there are many different uses for yeast.
I've watched detainees make wine just by putting bread on top of the mix, there was enough active yeast in store bought bread to start the reaction.

But remember folks, JWR says making alcohol is not a good thing. :roll:
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Post by Penner » Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:53 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
To add to this question how can you grow the yeast you need for baking and brewing?
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:00 am

Penner wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
To add to this question how can you grow the yeast you need for baking and brewing?
Right off the top of my head, if you want to grow high alcohol resistance yeast, subject your mash to high alcohol to kill everything except what can withstand it.

I don't really know how it's done though, I'm not a yeast farmer... rancher. I'm not a yeast rancher. I just go down to yeast dude ranch from time to time.
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Post by Montegriffo » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:01 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
Different yeasts cope with higher alcoholic percentages, the stronger yeasts do not die off till around 18%.
There are hundreds if not thousands of varieties of yeasts used in wine making.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast_in_winemaking
Some of these differences include the "vigor" or speed of fermentation, temperature tolerance, the production of volatile sulfur compounds (such as hydrogen sulfide) and other compounds that may influence the aroma of the wine.[3]
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:01 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Are there different special kinds of yeast? I'd expect that yeast will do what it needs to..
To add to this question how can you grow the yeast you need for baking and brewing?
Right off the top of my head, if you want to grow high alcohol resistance yeast, subject your mash to high alcohol to kill everything except what can withstand it.

I don't really know how it's done though, I'm not a yeast farmer... rancher. I'm not a yeast rancher. I just go down to yeast dude ranch from time to time.
Growing yeast is not that hard though. Same as brewing, you just let them have air. When they have air, they reproduce. Without air, they make alcohol.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:04 am

It might be like bread yeast. My prepping plan is just to make it from scratch from the yeast in my area. It takes about 10 days to get a decent starter going. If you have no fridge, you have to keep feeding it every day, taking half of it away to make more bread.

If we are talking "preparing for uncertainty and self-reliance", then I'd suggest you figure out how to do without the yeast packets if possible. People had to make alcohol from scratch in the past somehow.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:25 am

Used to be enough yeast in the air from pollinators and general agriculture to germinate on its own. People back then didn't really understand how it worked either.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:37 am

I know there is plenty of yeast in the air to bake bread.

Since GCF is already growing some wheat, he could make some extremely healthy bread by just processing the wheat himself. Ancient bread was much healthier because it had all that other wheat material in there. It was higher in protein as well, especially if you go the sourdough route.

You can also get seeds of ancient grains, which have been shown to be very healthy. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 135900.htm

Somewhere along the way we really fucked up bread. We turned what used to be a healthy food into junk food.
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