Stock Market Totally Artifical

[SuburbanFarmer]

The amount of inflation determines everything; less than 50% per month, we’ll probably make it okay. Lot’s of wealthy retired won’t be wealthy anymore but the rest of the population will be just where we left them, relatively so.

LOL no.

If inflation went up 10% in a YEAR, you'd see a giant wave of funds and banks going bankrupt. They're leveraged up to the hilt on debt - car, education, mortage loans.

[StCapps]

They’ve been abolished several times. They keep coming back whenever we run out of money.

The Central Banking system is really just a temporary gigantic loan against the future. And eventually, that loan always comes due.

Those weren't The Fed, those were shittier central banks, like I said, SIFCLF wishful thinking.

You're right. It's different this time.

The Fed is far more secure in it's position than any other central bank in the history of the US, and by a notable margin, yeah, it is different this time.

[Martin Hash]

The amount of inflation determines everything; less than 50% per month, we’ll probably make it okay. Lot’s of wealthy retired won’t be wealthy anymore but the rest of the population will be just where we left them, relatively so.

LOL no.

If inflation went up 10% in a YEAR, you'd see a giant wave of funds and banks going bankrupt. They're leveraged up to the hilt on debt - car, education, mortage loans.

Most people don’t have much to begin with. I mean, who even has $100K, 10% of the population, maybe? Government will keep the presses running printing Unemployment, Welfare & SS checks, enough for folks to live okay anyway. Do that for 3 or 4 years, equalize almost everyone’s income, start over.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Those weren't The Fed, those were shittier central banks, like I said, SIFCLF wishful thinking.

You're right. It's different this time.

The Fed is far more secure in it's position than any other central bank in the history of the US, and by a notable margin, yeah, it is different this time.

Well, I guess the tumor may be dug in deeper this time. That would simply mean that America defaults completely, instead of simply getting rid of them.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The amount of inflation determines everything; less than 50% per month, we’ll probably make it okay. Lot’s of wealthy retired won’t be wealthy anymore but the rest of the population will be just where we left them, relatively so.

LOL no.

If inflation went up 10% in a YEAR, you'd see a giant wave of funds and banks going bankrupt. They're leveraged up to the hilt on debt - car, education, mortage loans.

Most people don’t have much to begin with. I mean, who even has $100K, 10% of the population maybe? Government will keep the presses running printing Unemployment, Welfare & SS checks, enough for folks to live okay anyway. Do that for 3 or 4 years, equalize almost everyone’s income, start over.

That would be nice. But now you're dumping many trillions more magic money directly into the economy. While prices are skyrocketing here, the international value of the dollar plummets, and we can't import anything. Companies shut down, and we default. You can't print enough money for everyone to buy a new truck and a house. Companies can't sell domestically, they can't make money overseas, bankrupt.

If you don't pay at least the interest on the debt, you default. Simple as that. We can't hand someone pretend money as their payment, without the dollar losing value.

So we'll keep printing and printing, swamping the earth with dollars until they're worthless. By then the yield on the 10year note would be something like 80%, and nobody wants it. We default.

This has been done throughout history. It's the natural cycle of central banking. Eventually, the money becomes real, destroys the currency value, and it's over. Then we're Great Britain looking out at our lost empire, and learning Chinese.

[Martin Hash]

I don’t understand the “default”? Print whatever is needed to keep productivity = consumption until all debts are gone then it will climb out on its own.

[StCapps]

You're right. It's different this time.

The Fed is far more secure in it's position than any other central bank in the history of the US, and by a notable margin, yeah, it is different this time.

Well, I guess the tumor may be dug in deeper this time. That would simply mean that America defaults completely, instead of simply getting rid of them.

Or they just kick the can down the road, they are far from out of tricks, The Fed isn't Ending, and the US Dollar will still king be for a while longer, simmer down lolberg.

[StCapps]

If the US dollar drops, the rest of the currencies will inflate, your theory that the dollar is just going to plummet because they printed a few trillion is nonsense. The American economy does not run in a vacuum with no central banks responding to the value of the dollar, your analysis one dimensional stupidity GCF, straight up. The dollar isn't going to plummet because everyone else is going to inflate their currency proportionally in response, currency value is all relative, and you aren't factoring that in at all.

[SuburbanFarmer]

The Fed is far more secure in it's position than any other central bank in the history of the US, and by a notable margin, yeah, it is different this time.

Well, I guess the tumor may be dug in deeper this time. That would simply mean that America defaults completely, instead of simply getting rid of them.

Or they just kick the can down the road, they are far from out of tricks, The Fed isn't Ending, and the US Dollar will still king be for a while longer, simmer down lolberg.

You don't understand me. The TARP action of 2008, and QE ever since were the can being kicked down the road. That can ain't going any further.

If the US dollar drops, the rest of the currencies will inflate, your theory that the dollar is just going to plummet because they printed a few trillion is nonsense. The American economy does not run in a vacuum with no central banks responding to the value of the dollar, your analysis one dimensional stupidity GCF, straight up.

Correct. And over the past 2 weeks, you saw it. Everything, even gold, went up in value at a breakneck pace vs. the dollar. It's just the beginning.

[StCapps]

Well, I guess the tumor may be dug in deeper this time. That would simply mean that America defaults completely, instead of simply getting rid of them.

Or they just kick the can down the road, they are far from out of tricks, The Fed isn't Ending, and the US Dollar will still king be for a while longer, simmer down lolberg.

You don't understand me. The TARP action of 2008, and QE ever since were the can being kicked down the road. That can ain't going any further.

If the US dollar drops, the rest of the currencies will inflate, your theory that the dollar is just going to plummet because they printed a few trillion is nonsense. The American economy does not run in a vacuum with no central banks responding to the value of the dollar, your analysis one dimensional stupidity GCF, straight up.

Correct. And last week you saw it. Everything, even gold, inflated at a breakneck pace vs. the dollar. It's just the beginning.

The can will be kicked further down the road, and just because the dollar dropped a little in value, that doesn't mean it's the beginning of the end, or that it's going to continue as the new trend relative to every other countries currency, that's not how it works.