Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:27 pm

There are already people living off the grid with computers.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:32 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:There are already people living off the grid with computers.
Who made them?
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:33 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:There are already people living off the grid with computers.

EMP would make them useless.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:34 pm

I'm not saying they will last forever but it's still a commendable idea. If nothing else it will help a community survive long enough to pass on what they learned. Just learning the fauna and basic medical stuff would transmit for ages.

Also many people that are off the grid know about EMP's. I'm sure some of them have built basic faraday cages.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:46 pm

I think I would rather create a series of anthologies of 19th century books on farming, construction, blacksmithing, candle-making, etc. It should be published in print format using materials that will last as long as possible without being super expensive.

You could make the expensive version too that is printed on vellum or something like that. But just getting print books out there with this information would help a lot of people in times of trouble. Organize the anthologies according to different stages generally found in a crisis. So the first book would be about immediate shelter building, water collection and treatment, hunting/fishing/trapping, etc. It would build a person up to farming and building a shelter that is more livable without electricity and running water.

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Post by Penner » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:50 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:That's just what everybody needs when they are living on subsistence farming and fending off raiders: time to relax at the local library branch.


This is why the liberals would mostly die off, folks.
Like I said, you are going to need to meet the first two steps in Mazlow's Hierarchy of Needs before even attempting to rebuild civilization. The first two are always about survival. Once you have created a community where you are feed, have drinking water, and are safe THEN you can have things like libraries and even schools.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:35 pm

Nice try freeloader. No one's sitting in the damn library reading books while the rest of us are out in the fields. We'll have class this evening after the heat lets up. And this is an engineering school, not your library. Now git.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Penner » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:38 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:Nice try freeloader. No one's sitting in the damn library reading books while the rest of us are out in the fields. We'll have class this evening after the heat lets up. And this is an engineering school, not your library. Now git.
Meh. But I am sure parents would want their children to be able to read those "how to farm" books, won't they?
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Ex-California » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:42 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Also, remember those liberal urban areas are home to all the vote plantations setup by the democrats. That would come back to really fuck them over in the end. It would almost be funny to watch from a bird's eye view, really. I think in a total collapse, those cities would basically consume themselves. Some groups will try to walk out but we could probably finish them off no problem before they could cause any damage.

The mentality of these people, though.. you know they would expect to have a right to the resources of those rural communities they despised and shit upon just days earlier. They will be shocked when they get nothing, probably get violent, and then cut down.

Seriously imagine the different types of Americans in a situation where there no longer exists government and food production will be disrupted for at least a year. That should tell you what side is ridiculously unsustainable and off-course from the main trajectory of history, if such a thing exists.
The liberal vote plantations are barely one step above complete and total anarchy as it is now, after a short time of rioting due to austerity everything would even itself out
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:45 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote: The main thing I see preppers fucking up on is their physical fitness.

Although, truth be told, if we encounter something like a One Second After scenario, the people who are overweight will have a huge advantage.

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