New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

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Post by ssu » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:14 am

People think here that only the new Star Wars are so SJW?

Heck, the old Star Wars was quite SJW in it's time. Princess Leia wasn't the typical damsel in distress, the rebels were all kinds of races and species and there's a lot of leftist idealism in the first film. Bad guys were fascists. Hence nothing new under the sun.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:10 am

LOL, they weren't really fascists, though. There was no real ideology behind the Empire other than trying to restore order to the galaxy and keep the religious terrorists from dragging it back into a dark age.

Fascists had a motive and an ideology. They had a plan and some idea of where they wanted to take society. Just trying to keep civilization from crumbling is normal, run-of-the-mill sanity in the face of anti-civilizational forces. Again, the left ALWAYS projects and they ALWAYS give themselves away therein.

Star Wars for sure as shit needs to be told from the perspective of the Empire at this point. It's way beyond this being just a theoretical discussion. I really want to force these shitheads to see it.

These shitheads will burn our whole world to the ground thinking they are part of the noble "Rebal Alliance", but it's really just fucking ISIS. Those Jedi are just jihadis and the Force is just the "Religion of Peace".

I mean.. I agree it was hugely leftist even back in the 70s, but the left has no idea what a fascist really is these days. The first films were the worst in that sense because they depicted as "fascist" a government trying to put the pieces back together after a bunch of leftist agitators destroyed civilization.

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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by C-Mag » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:08 am

ssu wrote:People think here that only the new Star Wars are so SJW?

Heck, the old Star Wars was quite SJW in it's time. Princess Leia wasn't the typical damsel in distress, the rebels were all kinds of races and species and there's a lot of leftist idealism in the first film. Bad guys were fascists. Hence nothing new under the sun.
Fascists are Filthy Collectivists just like all Socialists. Nothing to do with personal Liberty and Freedom under either of those idologies.

The reason the new SW sucks is they put politics as the primary motivation and story telling second.
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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:50 am

C-Mag wrote:
The reason the new SW sucks is they put politics as the primary motivation and story telling second.
This is exactly the problem.

The heroism of the Jedi was not, in the original trilogy, that they fought for the right cause. It was that they were virtuous in their use of of the force. The power of the Dark Side was exactly that, the unmitigated use of power. Abandoning the virtuous code in order to achieve their ends is what makes Darth and the Emperor the villains of the piece, not the ends themselves.

The real tragedy of the new films is that they feel they have to really drive home the point that the 'cause' is what is important. It is extremely cynical, and only damages the story.
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Post by heydaralon » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:35 am

Fuck star wars.
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Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:41 am

Obviously, any discerning cinephile recognizes that Krull is the superior picture, but this is a Star Wars thread daralon, so please keep your criticisms constructive.
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Re: New Star wars canon has an SJW planet.

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:07 am

Or reconstructive.

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Post by heydaralon » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:22 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Obviously, any discerning cinephile recognizes that Krull is the superior picture, but this is a Star Wars thread daralon, so please keep your criticisms constructive.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:27 am

Sad movie. House Harkonnen is such a tragic tale. It sucks how the hero, played by Sting, is killed off like that.

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Post by heydaralon » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:32 am

They should do a star wars with lightsaber battles and some spaceships flying around and shooting at eachother. It would be an interesting take on the franchise.
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