The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:15 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:12 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:08 pm
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Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:49 pm
Yes we saw you pogo article citations. Thank you DSL. Noted.

Now if we have no more business to discuss, I would like to talk about how the f-35 sensor fusion hud tech is a precursor to what will be coming down the pipe. Full man machine interface. Get hype!
(1) You have to show me where that article is wrong, not declare a source wrong, which is fallacious.

(2) I don't need to refer to that site for evidence that this stealth tech can be targeted. It WAS targeted, and it was targeted by the fucking Serbians of all people.

(3) You don't know how radar works. You don't know how stealth works. These things only work against certain bandwidths. You need to change the geometry of the aircraft surface to deal with different bandwidths. All they have to do is change bandwidths.
1) I already did
2) it was targeted. Nuff said.
3) you don't know how stealth tech works. You just parrot Pravda and pogo and talk about "switching frequency." I bet you also have autism.
Stealth works by (1) using materials to absorb microwave radiation, and (2) using Maxwell's geometric equations to reflect the remaining signals in a direction other than the radar antenna of your opponent.

(1) the material is the same as that used on the F-117. You fail right there.

(2) The geometry works depending upon the bandwidth of the radar you are trying to deflect. In particular, our opponents only need to purchase low-band radar systems and they can target the F-35 just fine. No differently than those fucking Serbs targeted the F-117.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:16 pm

Everyone knows you can target an f-35 within 20 miles. You're not breaking news you are fake news.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:18 pm

F-35 incorporates the lessons of F-117, in that you need to have an ELINT picture of the EM in the battlespace, then you use the stealth in the gaps and blind spots. If you get close contact, it flies like an F/A-18 on steroids.
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:19 pm

So, just out of curiosity.
What are the field maintenance requirements for the F-35 ?
What type of personnel do you need, how many, what type of facilities do you need, can this thing be maintained in more primitive conditions, can it use its V-Tol capabilities in primitive conditions.

What's up with sustaining this thing and using it in the field.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:21 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:19 pm
So, just out of curiosity.
What are the field maintenance requirements for the F-35 ?
What type of personnel do you need, how many, what type of facilities do you need, can this thing be maintained in more primitive conditions, can it use its V-Tol capabilities in primitive conditions.

What's up with sustaining this thing and using it in the field.
Depends on the contractor and the lease agreements you sign

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:21 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:19 pm
So, just out of curiosity.
What are the field maintenance requirements for the F-35 ?
What type of personnel do you need, how many, what type of facilities do you need, can this thing be maintained in more primitive conditions, can it use its V-Tol capabilities in primitive conditions.

What's up with sustaining this thing and using it in the field.
It's not the A-10, it is a bit of a hanger queen, but so is F-15, so is F-22, so is Typhoon, and Rafale.

So is Russian Flanker, because Russian Klimov engines are junk.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:17 pm

Oh fuck off. You don't even know what "hangar queen" means. LMFAO

I am not sure about A-10, but F-15 is not high maintenance for what it is. I doubt the Warthog is maintenance unfriendly, though. I could ask around about it.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:26 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:19 pm
So, just out of curiosity.
What are the field maintenance requirements for the F-35 ?
What type of personnel do you need, how many, what type of facilities do you need, can this thing be maintained in more primitive conditions, can it use its V-Tol capabilities in primitive conditions.

What's up with sustaining this thing and using it in the field.
Nobody really knows since F-35 can't even seem to get into actual combat testing. It's way the fuck behind schedule right now. It's probably fairly maintenance intensive because of all the junk bells and whistles. But who knows, really.

You can't really launch something like this in the middle of a field since it would eat FOD and destroy the engine.


I think the Swedes actually invented a jet that could take off on dirt roads by completely shutting down the intakes and feeding the engine through a bypass valve on the top of the aircraft. I don't know much about that.

The F-35 almost certainly does not operate from remote runways. You need a lot of support to operate something like that.

What the Army means by the "field" is not possible for something like this. Not really any jet can do that safely. This is why I always though CAS planes should use props.

In any case, anybody who tells you what the maintenance costs are for an F-35 are full of shit. We simply don't know. This thing can't even get through testing right now.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:09 pm

F-35 beats out Eurofighter for Belgian Air Force.

Lockheed's F-35 jet is taking Europe by stealth

Belgium has chosen Lockheed Martin's F-35 over the Eurofighter, the latest European country to favor the U.S.-made plane over one made closer to home. It'll help coordination with NATO, Belgium says - and it was cheaper.

https://www.reuters.com/video/2018/10/2 ... =476983220
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:50 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:09 pm
F-35 beats out Eurofighter for Belgian Air Force.

Lockheed's F-35 jet is taking Europe by stealth

Belgium has chosen Lockheed Martin's F-35 over the Eurofighter, the latest European country to favor the U.S.-made plane over one made closer to home. It'll help coordination with NATO, Belgium says - and it was cheaper.

https://www.reuters.com/video/2018/10/2 ... =476983220
Easy call Belgium, way to not fuck that up.
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