The Mess

[clubgop]

America's strategic imperatives are at sea, America is a seapower, getting off the boat does not make any sense for America, 90% of the time, how does Syria imperil America's strategic interests at sea? Answer; diverting resources away from the Navy to go a dragon slaying in Syria with land based assets.

Its a shame politicians can't just say this. Trump got close but never all the way.

The Army and Air Force would go ballistic, the real strategic war in America, as you know, is interservice rivalry.

"The Soviets are our adversary. Our enemy is the Navy"~Curtis LeMay

Not about the that part. The part where we say honestly we aren't going to do anything. Alleppo is well screwed.

[clubgop]

America's strategic imperatives are at sea, America is a seapower, getting off the boat does not make any sense for America, 90% of the time, how does Syria imperil America's strategic interests at sea? Answer; diverting resources away from the Navy to go a dragon slaying in Syria with land based assets.

Its a shame politicians can't just say this. Trump got close but never all the way.

Yes, fucking this. Smitty is right, we are a sea power. Technology is our barrier.

No not that part. Fuck you all by the way.

[SuburbanFarmer]

America's strategic imperatives are at sea, America is a seapower, getting off the boat does not make any sense for America, 90% of the time, how does Syria imperil America's strategic interests at sea? Answer; diverting resources away from the Navy to go a dragon slaying in Syria with land based assets.

Its a shame politicians can't just say this. Trump got close but never all the way.

Yes, fucking this. Smitty is right, we are a sea power. Technology is our barrier.

Sea power? No such thing, unless you're willing to torpedo enemy shipping - which will never happen in the age of Multinational Conglomocorps.

Besides, we have around 800 military bases already sprinkled across every nation on earth. No need for big boats, except to feed our MIC contractors.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... rld-119321

[Smitty-48]

Sea power? No such thing, unless you're willing to torpedo enemy shipping - which will never happen in the age of Multinational Conglomocorps.

The opposite is actually the case, 99% of seapower is presence, only 1% is actually using torpedoes.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Sea power? No such thing, unless you're willing to torpedo enemy shipping - which will never happen in the age of Multinational Conglomocorps.

The opposite is actually the case, 99% of seapower is presence, only 1% is actually using torpedoes.

Meh... we've got 2-10x the naval presence of any other first world nation. It hasn't been useful since Vietnam.

I mean, we could send an attack submarine after some Somali pirates, but it wouldn't change the situation much. Tomahawks looked cool as fuck blowing up Baghdad, but some nice fireworks would have accomplished the same.

At this point, the US Navy is so OP as to become comic relief, and little more.

[Smitty-48]

Pretty simple equation; America has ruled the waves since the Second World War, in that time, how many naval battles of consequence has America fought? How many torpedoes has America fired in anger? Here's a hint; none.

Seapower is like a cop who ceaselessly walks the beat, showing constant presence, but who almost never pulls his gun and fires it in anger.

[clubgop]

What in the blue fuck is that cowardly bitch GCF doing in the mess? I withdraw my withdrawal Smitty is right he is always right. GCF is a bitch and will be a cowardly bitch. The more things change the more they stay the same.

[SuburbanFarmer]

What in the blue fuck is that cowardly bitch GCF doing in the mess? I withdraw my withdrawal Smitty is right he is always right. GCF is a bitch and will be a cowardly bitch. The more things change the more they stay the same.

It's really good to see you turning over a new leaf, man. Glad you came along to the new site.
Now die in a fire, you speed freak.

Pretty simple equation; America has ruled the waves since the Second World War, in that time, how many naval battles of consequence has America fought? How many torpedoes has America fired in anger? Here's a hint; none.

Seapower is like a cop who ceaselessly walks the beat, showing constant presence, but who almost never pulls his gun and fires it in anger.

Yeah, our Unicorn Deterrence Systems are working flawlessly as well.

[Smitty-48]

You look at how America defeated the Soviets at sea in the Cold War, nary a shot fired, the threat of the Soviet Navy, was neutralized, and by extension, the threat of the entire Soviet war machine, simply by showing constant presence, the ultimate expression of this was SOSUS and the Submarines, the Soviet submarines were the existential threat, but merely by being constantly on the beat, tracking them wherever they went, being right up behind them in the saddle, the Navy rendered the Soviets impotent, if the Soviet submarines could not get the jump on America, the Soviets had no hope of winning a Third World War, by the Navy being ceaselessly up in their baffles, the cops on the beat nipped things in the bud before they ever reached the point of them having to draw their torpedoes and fire.

This is how your rule the waves, not by fighting for them, simply by ruling them with presence, so that things never escalate to the point of a shoot out in the first place.

[clubgop]

Pretty simple equation; America has ruled the waves since the Second World War, in that time, how many naval battles of consequence has America fought? How many torpedoes has America fired in anger? Here's a hint; none.

Seapower is like a cop who ceaselessly walks the beat, showing constant presence, but who almost never pulls his gun and fires it in anger.

Yeah, our Unicorn Deterrence Systems are working flawlessly as well.

Man he needs an ass kicking so bad but I don't want anyone doing him a favor.