US Voting Qualifications Thread

[StCapps]

Well you do what Trudeau did, you tell them they can have their cake and eat it too, then when they vote you in, you raise taxes to pay for your spending, and then you just defy them to do something about it. And you watch, they won't do a thing.

That's what Ronald Reagan did too, works every time. Fuck Newt Gincrich, whose afraid of Newt Gingrinch? Not Justin Trudeau.

It would work, and Trump could sell it, but is he smart enough to do it considering the backlash he'd get from the Gingrich types, he might puss out. Trudeau isn't scared, but Trump might be, thus he might continue to opt for kicking the can down the road, like many a pussy before him. He'd be wise to pull a Reagan, but will he?

[Smitty-48]

Well you do what Trudeau did, you tell them they can have their cake and eat it too, then when they vote you in, you raise taxes to pay for your spending, and then you just defy them to do something about it. And you watch, they won't do a thing.

That's what Ronald Reagan did too, works every time. Fuck Newt Gincrich, whose afraid of Newt Gingrinch? Not Justin Trudeau.

It would work, and Trump could sell it, but is he smart enough to do it considering the backlash he'd get from the Gingrich types, he might puss out. Trudeau isn't scared, but Trump might be, thus he might continue to opt for kicking the can down the road, like many of the pussies before him.

Eventually someone will come along in the US and do it, Trump creates a lot of friction, but there's a model where you could pull a Trump without being a Trump about it, and plenty in the GOP are seeing that now. Trump has proven that the constituency is there, so he has already reordered the right in the USA, even after Trump, the Gingrinch types are in stark decline, the arc has come full circle, the GOP is going big gov again, whether they like it or not.

[StCapps]

Well you do what Trudeau did, you tell them they can have their cake and eat it too, then when they vote you in, you raise taxes to pay for your spending, and then you just defy them to do something about it. And you watch, they won't do a thing.

That's what Ronald Reagan did too, works every time. Fuck Newt Gincrich, whose afraid of Newt Gingrinch? Not Justin Trudeau.

It would work, and Trump could sell it, but is he smart enough to do it considering the backlash he'd get from the Gingrich types, he might puss out. Trudeau isn't scared, but Trump might be, thus he might continue to opt for kicking the can down the road, like many of the pussies before him.

Eventually someone will come along in the US and do it, Trump creates a lot of friction, but there's a model where you could pull a Trump without being a Trump about it, and plenty in the GOP are seeing that now. Trump has proven that the constituency is there, so he has already reordered the right in the USA, even after Trump, th Gingrinch types are in stark decline, the arc has come full circle, the GOP is going big gov, whether they like it or not.

If not Trump someone else will do it, that's true, we might just have to wait a while before we see it is all, if Trump doesn't want to pull the trigger anyway. Eventually the GOP will wise up, if just win elections. Any predictions on when they might get around to pulling the trigger on the big govt tax raise tip?

[Smitty-48]

It would work, and Trump could sell it, but is he smart enough to do it considering the backlash he'd get from the Gingrich types, he might puss out. Trudeau isn't scared, but Trump might be, thus he might continue to opt for kicking the can down the road, like many of the pussies before him.

Eventually someone will come along in the US and do it, Trump creates a lot of friction, but there's a model where you could pull a Trump without being a Trump about it, and plenty in the GOP are seeing that now. Trump has proven that the constituency is there, so he has already reordered the right in the USA, even after Trump, th Gingrinch types are in stark decline, the arc has come full circle, the GOP is going big gov, whether they like it or not.

If not Trump someone else will do it, that's true, we might just have to wait a while before we see it is all, if Trump doesn't want to pull the trigger anyway. Eventually the GOP will wise up, if just win elections. Any predictions on when they might get around to wizening up on the big govt tip?

If the Democrats take the congress back, then I think Trump will start wheeling and dealing, that's really the secret of Ronald Reagan's success; Tip O'Neill, and even if the Democrats don't like Trump, they would rather wheel and deal with Trump than they would Pence, so if Trump started a wheeling and a dealing, he could become the Democrats new best friend, behind the scenes mind you, in public they would still have to disavow him, but in terms of wheeling and dealing, they would know that they could get more out of the Trump than they could get out of a Democrat President, only Nixon can go to China effect, so I think it all comes down to the GOP getting tossed in one of the two houses.

[StCapps]

If the Democrats take the congress back, then I think Trump will start wheeling and dealing, that's really the secret of Ronald Reagan's success; Tip O'Neill, and even if the Democrats don't like Trump, they would rather wheel and deal with Trump than they would Pence, so if Trump started a wheeling and a dealing, he could become the Democrats new best friend, behind the scenes mind you, in public they would still have to disavow him, but in terms of wheeling and dealing, they would know that they could get more out of the Trump than they could get out of a Democrat President, only Nixon can go to China effect, so I think it all comes down to the GOP getting tossed in one of the two houses.

I don't think Trump has any qualms about throwing the Republican congress under the bus given them sitting on their hands and doing fuck all. Looks like you called it all along, Trump secretly want the Democrats to gain power in congress, because he can make deals a whole lot easier if that is the case. You can already see Trump beginning to test the waters in that regard with his DACA for the wall, quid pro quo.

[Smitty-48]

Prolly would be net loss rather than gross, so Democrats + GOP moderates + Trump, which would have the same effect, even if the Democrats didn't take the houses back formally. A Democrat + GOP moderates + Trump coalition, could actually be quite stable, at least for the rest of the term at minimum.

[StCapps]

Prolly would be net loss rather than gross, so Democrats + GOP moderates + Trump, which would have the same effect, even if the Democrats didn't take the houses back formally.

Something tells me that party loyalty is not something Trump cares that much about, especially with the do-nothing petty squabbling GOP that he is currently dealing with. Why wouldn't he want to throw them under the bus?

[Fife]

Speaking of Reagan's "success," more bulges incoming.

[StCapps]

Speaking of Reagan's "success," more bulges incoming.

Won him two elections didn't it? You think Reagan cared about any long-term negative consequences? Why would he? That's someone else's mess to clean up, not his. Reagan didn't get blamed when shit didn't go so well afterward, because it didn't happen on his watch. Reagan comes out of it being lionized, and Bush takes most of the fall, that's how it works.

[Smitty-48]

Prolly would be net loss rather than gross, so Democrats + GOP moderates + Trump, which would have the same effect, even if the Democrats didn't take the houses back formally.

Something tells me that party loyalty is not something Trump cares that much about, especially with the do-nothing petty squabbling GOP that he is currently dealing with. Why wouldn't he want to throw them under the bus?

Party loyalty matters to Democrats even less, the Democrats are the most transactional, this is why a GOP President should always seek a Democrat congress, even if only secretly, because the GOP is the much more ideological party, the Democrats are far more willing wheel and deal, because so long as they bring the bacon home for the Gibs, they get reelected.