The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

[C-Mag]

Yeah, I'm a 1911 guy. They are awesome weapons, so are Glocks. I'm an evolved Gun Nut, I don't need to get into stupid arguments over the two.

In the end, it's all about rounds on target. If one doesn't work for you, use the other.

[Montegriffo]

When Ian Fleming wrote the first of the James Bond novels, Casino Royale, he had no idea the direction in which the stories would go, let alone how many he would eventually write. So when he introduced, Bond as using a Beretta 418 in a flat chamois leather holster he probably didn't think too much about it. He had used such a gun during the Second World War when he was in Naval Intelligence and felt it was an appropriate sidearm for a secret agent on an undercover mission.

Shortly before the publication of From Russia with Love in 1956, Fleming received a fan letter from a Major Geoffrey Boothroyd. Boothroyd was a retired Army Major and gun collector. Boothroyd told Fleming that he really admired the Bond novels apart from the hero's choice of weapon. He felt that the Beretta 418 was "a lady's gun" with no real stopping power. He also objected to the choice of holster. Boothroyd proposed that Bond should use a revolver like the Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight. It had no external hammer, so it would not catch on Bond's clothes. The Smith & Wesson could be kept in a Berns-Martin triple draw holster held in place with a spring clip which would decrease Bond's draw time. Boothroyd also had bad words about the silencer Bond occasionally used, saying that they were rarely silent and reduced the power of a gun.

Fleming replied, thanked the Major for his letter, and made a few points. He felt that Bond ought to have an automatic pistol; perhaps Boothroyd could recommend one? He agreed that the Beretta 418 lacked power, but pointed out that Bond had used more powerful weapons when the need required, such as the Colt Army Special he uses in Moonraker. Fleming also said that he had seen a silenced Sten gun during the war and the weapon had hardly made a whisper.

Boothroyd recommended the Walther PPK 7.65mm as being the best choice for an automatic of that size, with its ammunition available everywhere. He suggested, however, that 007 ought to have a revolver for long-range work. Fleming asked Boothroyd if he could lend his illustrator Richard Chopping one of his guns to be painted for the cover of From Russia with Love. Boothroyd lent Chopping a .357 Magnum revolver that had the trigger guard removed for faster firing.

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_firearms

Thanks for the info. I thought that was a Walther, and you confirmed it. I looked up a picture of a beretta 418. Its a small gun, and I suppose it could fit inside a female assassin's purse, but it doesn't look particularly feminine to me. Are you a bond fan Monte? I am a huge fan of the early Connery ones, a few Moore ones, Dalton was pretty good, and Pierce Brosnan had an alright run (die another day was utter shit though, as was the World is not enough). Craig has had 2 good ones. But I will always think of Connery as the real bond. Never read any of Fleming's novels. Have you?

Much prefer the books. Much more gritty and realistic than the trashy films.
I did get a look around the Bond studio when I was at Pinewood working on the King Arthur frozen lake scene.
There's a great carved oak door on one of the older Pinewood buildings which was from a Scottish castle.

[TheReal_ND]

Glocks just work grandpa.

[heydaralon]

http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_firearms

Thanks for the info. I thought that was a Walther, and you confirmed it. I looked up a picture of a beretta 418. Its a small gun, and I suppose it could fit inside a female assassin's purse, but it doesn't look particularly feminine to me. Are you a bond fan Monte? I am a huge fan of the early Connery ones, a few Moore ones, Dalton was pretty good, and Pierce Brosnan had an alright run (die another day was utter shit though, as was the World is not enough). Craig has had 2 good ones. But I will always think of Connery as the real bond. Never read any of Fleming's novels. Have you?

Much prefer the books. Much more gritty and realistic than the trashy films.
I did get a look around the Bond studio when I was at Pinewood working on the King Arthur frozen lake scene.
There's a great carved oak door on one of the older Pinewood buildings which was from a Scottish castle.

Bond is Scotish right?

[Montegriffo]

Thanks for the info. I thought that was a Walther, and you confirmed it. I looked up a picture of a beretta 418. Its a small gun, and I suppose it could fit inside a female assassin's purse, but it doesn't look particularly feminine to me. Are you a bond fan Monte? I am a huge fan of the early Connery ones, a few Moore ones, Dalton was pretty good, and Pierce Brosnan had an alright run (die another day was utter shit though, as was the World is not enough). Craig has had 2 good ones. But I will always think of Connery as the real bond. Never read any of Fleming's novels. Have you?

Much prefer the books. Much more gritty and realistic than the trashy films.
I did get a look around the Bond studio when I was at Pinewood working on the King Arthur frozen lake scene.
There's a great carved oak door on one of the older Pinewood buildings which was from a Scottish castle.

Bond is Scotish right?

Scottish ex naval officer. Drove a battleship grey 1930s Bentley.
Much cooler than Connery.

[heydaralon]

Much prefer the books. Much more gritty and realistic than the trashy films.
I did get a look around the Bond studio when I was at Pinewood working on the King Arthur frozen lake scene.
There's a great carved oak door on one of the older Pinewood buildings which was from a Scottish castle.

Bond is Scotish right?

Scottish ex naval officer. Drove a battleship grey 1930s Bentley.
Much cooler than Connery.

Blasphemy!

The early Casino Royale movie was this weird screwball comedy with Woody Allen. I suppose all the Bond movies had some campiness and humor, but its weird how they shifted from Dr. No, Goldfinger etc. to that, and then kind of meandered back and forth between seriousness and absurd dark comedy. For instance, many of the Daniel Craig bond films were somewhat dark (at least for a shitty pg-13 mass market film), compare that to Roger Moore, who was always a bit of a clown. Its remarkable how long that franchise has held on, especially considering how utterly formulaic it is. I think in some cases, the formula is kind of a part of the charm.

Are the book remotely comedic, or are they just dark and pulpy? Which book is your favorite?

[C-Mag]

Glocks just work grandpa.

So says the Glock NPC



I'm actually getting real close to dropping the Hammer on my first Glock. I've shot a lot of them, but I've never owned them. I'm really diggin the Glock 19X.

[Montegriffo]

Bond is Scotish right?

Scottish ex naval officer. Drove a battleship grey 1930s Bentley.
Much cooler than Connery.

Blasphemy!

The early Casino Royale movie was this weird screwball comedy with Woody Allen. I suppose all the Bond movies had some campiness and humor, but its weird how they shifted from Dr. No, Goldfinger etc. to that, and then kind of meandered back and forth between seriousness and absurd dark comedy. For instance, many of the Daniel Craig bond films were somewhat dark (at least for a shitty pg-13 mass market film), compare that to Roger Moore, who was always a bit of a clown. Its remarkable how long that franchise has held on, especially considering how utterly formulaic it is. I think in some cases, the formula is kind of a part of the charm.

Are the book remotely comedic, or are they just dark and pulpy? Which book is your favorite?

Blimey, it must be 40 years since I read them. You only live twice was very good.

Most of the films only really took the title from the Fleming books and not much else. The later films don't even have a Fleming title as he only wrote 14 books.
There's very little humour from what I remember.
The books get a bit formulaic if you read them one after another without a break.
I ended up doing that and never finished the series.

I was encouraged when Daniel Craig did his first one but they dropped off after that.
Never really liked Roger Moore and the guy I do the film jobs with worked with him and said he was a slimy creep with the girls.
Connery is Bond for me.
On her Majesty's secret service was closest to the book with Dr No a close second.

[Montegriffo]

Getting back to the thread topic, Quantum of Solice didn't have Bond holding or even mentioning a gun once.

[TheReal_ND]

Glocks just work grandpa.

So says the Glock NPC



I'm actually getting real close to dropping the Hammer on my first Glock. I've shot a lot of them, but I've never owned them. I'm really diggin the Glock 19X.

Yeah I think you will really like it. The sites are way better for me personally over a typical 1911.
Mine is currently at the pawn shop