The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by heydaralon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:42 pm

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I had a GI issue remake 1911 Springfield Arms and it stovepiped like crazy.
The shells would get stuck when you fired it and not leave the weapon? Can that cause the gun to blow up in your hand? This might be a really stupid question, but I've never fired a pistol before.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:46 pm

The slide would snap shut on an empty cartridge while it was ejecting. My friend that was a gun nut thought I was limp wristing it until he tried it. Then he decided the spring was too new and stiff. I ditched it altogether and never looked back.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by heydaralon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:48 pm

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The slide would snap shut on an empty cartridge while it was ejecting. My friend that was a gun nut thought I was limp wristing it until he tried it. Then he decided the spring was too new and stiff. I ditched it altogether and never looked back.
Its a pretty cool looking gun though. Have you ever fired a Walther PPK? I've always thought those guns looked very bondish. I think Connery sported them in the earlier films. Just a neat slick looking weapon. I don't know how quality they are.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:50 pm

No I haven't personally. I've never heard anyone speak ill of them in any way.

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:08 pm

When Ian Fleming wrote the first of the James Bond novels, Casino Royale, he had no idea the direction in which the stories would go, let alone how many he would eventually write. So when he introduced, Bond as using a Beretta 418 in a flat chamois leather holster he probably didn't think too much about it. He had used such a gun during the Second World War when he was in Naval Intelligence and felt it was an appropriate sidearm for a secret agent on an undercover mission.

Shortly before the publication of From Russia with Love in 1956, Fleming received a fan letter from a Major Geoffrey Boothroyd. Boothroyd was a retired Army Major and gun collector. Boothroyd told Fleming that he really admired the Bond novels apart from the hero's choice of weapon. He felt that the Beretta 418 was "a lady's gun" with no real stopping power. He also objected to the choice of holster. Boothroyd proposed that Bond should use a revolver like the Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight. It had no external hammer, so it would not catch on Bond's clothes. The Smith & Wesson could be kept in a Berns-Martin triple draw holster held in place with a spring clip which would decrease Bond's draw time. Boothroyd also had bad words about the silencer Bond occasionally used, saying that they were rarely silent and reduced the power of a gun.

Fleming replied, thanked the Major for his letter, and made a few points. He felt that Bond ought to have an automatic pistol; perhaps Boothroyd could recommend one? He agreed that the Beretta 418 lacked power, but pointed out that Bond had used more powerful weapons when the need required, such as the Colt Army Special he uses in Moonraker. Fleming also said that he had seen a silenced Sten gun during the war and the weapon had hardly made a whisper.

Boothroyd recommended the Walther PPK 7.65mm as being the best choice for an automatic of that size, with its ammunition available everywhere. He suggested, however, that 007 ought to have a revolver for long-range work. Fleming asked Boothroyd if he could lend his illustrator Richard Chopping one of his guns to be painted for the cover of From Russia with Love. Boothroyd lent Chopping a .357 Magnum revolver that had the trigger guard removed for faster firing.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by heydaralon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:15 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:08 pm
When Ian Fleming wrote the first of the James Bond novels, Casino Royale, he had no idea the direction in which the stories would go, let alone how many he would eventually write. So when he introduced, Bond as using a Beretta 418 in a flat chamois leather holster he probably didn't think too much about it. He had used such a gun during the Second World War when he was in Naval Intelligence and felt it was an appropriate sidearm for a secret agent on an undercover mission.

Shortly before the publication of From Russia with Love in 1956, Fleming received a fan letter from a Major Geoffrey Boothroyd. Boothroyd was a retired Army Major and gun collector. Boothroyd told Fleming that he really admired the Bond novels apart from the hero's choice of weapon. He felt that the Beretta 418 was "a lady's gun" with no real stopping power. He also objected to the choice of holster. Boothroyd proposed that Bond should use a revolver like the Smith & Wesson Centennial Airweight. It had no external hammer, so it would not catch on Bond's clothes. The Smith & Wesson could be kept in a Berns-Martin triple draw holster held in place with a spring clip which would decrease Bond's draw time. Boothroyd also had bad words about the silencer Bond occasionally used, saying that they were rarely silent and reduced the power of a gun.

Fleming replied, thanked the Major for his letter, and made a few points. He felt that Bond ought to have an automatic pistol; perhaps Boothroyd could recommend one? He agreed that the Beretta 418 lacked power, but pointed out that Bond had used more powerful weapons when the need required, such as the Colt Army Special he uses in Moonraker. Fleming also said that he had seen a silenced Sten gun during the war and the weapon had hardly made a whisper.

Boothroyd recommended the Walther PPK 7.65mm as being the best choice for an automatic of that size, with its ammunition available everywhere. He suggested, however, that 007 ought to have a revolver for long-range work. Fleming asked Boothroyd if he could lend his illustrator Richard Chopping one of his guns to be painted for the cover of From Russia with Love. Boothroyd lent Chopping a .357 Magnum revolver that had the trigger guard removed for faster firing.
http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_firearms
Thanks for the info. I thought that was a Walther, and you confirmed it. I looked up a picture of a beretta 418. Its a small gun, and I suppose it could fit inside a female assassin's purse, but it doesn't look particularly feminine to me. Are you a bond fan Monte? I am a huge fan of the early Connery ones, a few Moore ones, Dalton was pretty good, and Pierce Brosnan had an alright run (die another day was utter shit though, as was the World is not enough). Craig has had 2 good ones. But I will always think of Connery as the real bond. Never read any of Fleming's novels. Have you?
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by C-Mag » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:25 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:38 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Yes, and no.

It's a Colt 1911 frame, made by Kimber, likely 45 cal. So, basically yes, but gun nuts will lynch you for making the technical mistake in calling it a Colt 45
I thought the 1911's had a longer barrel. Not that I know shit about guns. Either way, I've always thought those colts look pretty awesome. American GI's used to be issued them as a sidearm in WW2 right?

Also, a friend of mine who is into firearms told me that Colt .45's have a tendency to jam more than other handguns. Is this true? What is your personal favorite handgun?

Barrel length is inmaterial. The frame and firing mechanism is what makes it a 1911 clone.

Here's the deal on 1911's.
A) Most all Competition Shooters and Champions shoot 1911's ~ There's a Reason
- of course these are custom made
B) Everyone copies the 1911, it's the most copied gun in the world (probably)
- Lots of cheap ones out there. How the 1911 mechanism works it requires close tolerane on a series of parts that work together. Each part can be 'in Spec' but the gun won't function........ WHAT?
- Yes, it's called Stacking Tolerance. The 1911 was made by hand by John Browning in a 8' x 12' garage in his back yard. 1911s basically need to be hand fitted to function at peak performance. Just can't stamp out parts and throw it together.
C) People buy cheap 1911's and have problems, become Glock guys and make bad Memes about 1911 guys.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by C-Mag » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:27 pm

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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by heydaralon » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:28 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:25 pm
heydaralon wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:38 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Yes, and no.

It's a Colt 1911 frame, made by Kimber, likely 45 cal. So, basically yes, but gun nuts will lynch you for making the technical mistake in calling it a Colt 45
I thought the 1911's had a longer barrel. Not that I know shit about guns. Either way, I've always thought those colts look pretty awesome. American GI's used to be issued them as a sidearm in WW2 right?

Also, a friend of mine who is into firearms told me that Colt .45's have a tendency to jam more than other handguns. Is this true? What is your personal favorite handgun?

Barrel length is inmaterial. The frame and firing mechanism is what makes it a 1911 clone.

Here's the deal on 1911's.
A) Most all Competition Shooters and Champions shoot 1911's ~ There's a Reason
- of course these are custom made
B) Everyone copies the 1911, it's the most copied gun in the world (probably)
- Lots of cheap ones out there. How the 1911 mechanism works it requires close tolerane on a series of parts that work together. Each part can be 'in Spec' but the gun won't function........ WHAT?
- Yes, it's called Stacking Tolerance. The 1911 was made by hand by John Browning in a 8' x 12' garage in his back yard. 1911s basically need to be hand fitted to function at peak performance. Just can't stamp out parts and throw it together.
C) People buy cheap 1911's and have problems, become Glock guys and make bad Memes about 1911 guys.
Nice response! Do you own a 1911?
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