The current crop of left wing debaters is weak

[Speaker to Animals]

Ah. I see the dilemma here. He believes, as Dan did, that owning firearms is pointless now for many reasons and one of them being insurgency is impossible now. To which I would point him at Afghanistan and ask him what would happen in White Afghanistan (the Appalachias,) if there ever were a full borne insurgency. All those UAV drones and satellites haven't won a single war yet anyway.

If (if) that's the "argument" of the moment, it's the dumbest one yet.

And yes, it's even dumber when Carlin makes it. His dumb ass is at least supposed to be somewhat literate about popular resistance to the state.

We've brought up all the examples of small arms repelling an occupation and these people just shut down mentally or they walk away from the thread only to repeat the stupid argument months later.

[Smitty-48]

The difference is real, old bean.

No prior restraint, Smits. Not for any of the stuff in the BOR, or for lots of other rights, either.

It leads nowhere good, so it's not something to even entertain any compromise about.

No quarter for free speech zones.

No quarter for abuse of personal security.

No quarter for quartering. See what I did there?

I'm not saying you should even take one step back on the right, I'm just saying it wouldn't make any difference to the issues which the gun grabbers blubber about, there would still be millions of hayseed-goobers walking about armed to the teeth, there would just be more paperwork involved.

[TheReal_ND]

Poland Jews. What was that city where they held out for entirely too long for the Wehrmacht?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Real question:

Do we all think that the most powerful military state in the history of the world would show the same restraint putting down an insurgency of her own people as she shows in someplace like Afghanistan, limited drone strikes and working or trying to work with local counter revolutionaries?

[Speaker to Animals]

We reserve the right to let you speak your mind, but don't worry, we like you so we won't interfere with your right to speak, so it's all really the same thing..

[TheReal_ND]

Real question:

Do we all think that the most powerful military state in the history of the world would show the same restraint putting down an insurgency of her own people as she shows in someplace like Afghanistan, limited drone strikes and working or trying to work with local counter revolutionaries?

You're making a lot of stupid assumptions

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[Smitty-48]

Real question:

Do we all think that the most powerful military state in the history of the world would show the same restraint putting down an insurgency of her own people as she shows in someplace like Afghanistan, limited drone strikes and working or trying to work with local counter revolutionaries?

The gun grabbers are the insurgents, in the event of apple carts being tipped, the state would work with the local hayseed-goobers, against the gun grabbers, ITSHTF, it's the liberals who will be running for their lives, instability would result in a massive backlash from and towards the right.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Real question:

Do we all think that the most powerful military state in the history of the world would show the same restraint putting down an insurgency of her own people as she shows in someplace like Afghanistan, limited drone strikes and working or trying to work with local counter revolutionaries?

You're making a lot of stupid assumptions

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I am only questioning the assumption that we can model an American insurgency on what has happened in other parts of the world.

[Speaker to Animals]

Real question:

Do we all think that the most powerful military state in the history of the world would show the same restraint putting down an insurgency of her own people as she shows in someplace like Afghanistan, limited drone strikes and working or trying to work with local counter revolutionaries?

You're making a lot of stupid assumptions

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I am only questioning the assumption that we can model an American insurgency on what has happened in other parts of the world.

You got that one backwards. Other parts of the world modeled insurgencies, in part, on the American example.

Really, examples (plural) when you look at what happened in Texas.

[Smitty-48]

Bear in mind, in Afghanistan, the Taliban are not America's natural enemies, they are America's natural allies, the Afghan civil war will end, when America starts working with the Taliban and the Tribes instead of against them.

Just look at Green Beret Jim Gant, as soon as he started living amongst the Tribes, he had no problems whatsoever, and they were perfectly happy to out the Arab foreign fighters to his teams.