Breakdown of traditional communities and the ability to determine social relevance

[BjornP]

10,000 is a big number. My suspicion is that a lot, if not most, of those views, retweets, whatever, are bots. Take this forum: we go to great pains to block bots. We certainly don't buy bots? (Facebook offers 1,000 views for $5, WTF?) Our real membership is about 100 active people, with a couple dozen of them posting (the rest lurking), yet the traffic is respectable, almost 10K posts/mo. If we had 10,000 active members, that extrapolates to 1 million posts/mo. Those are Redit numbers. Something doesn't make sense in those microcosms unless bots are the vast majority of their traffic.

That there is a market for paid retweets, to give the appearance of popularity of tweeted statement, liked comment, or FB post would suggest that there is a real psychological effect to seeing that a tweet, FB post, whatever social media post. Real enough that businesses post money in it. If your mind can be tricked to buy a soda by an illusion that it's "The Most Popular Soda among Cool People!", for example, then why would that same logic not apply to beliefs? Not everyone arrives at their beliefs and values after a long-term, introspective, well-reasoned, reading session after all.

But what do you get if you look at our community? NOTHING. We don't have a fucking community anymore. The basic notion of what even constitutes being an American is challenged by marauding illegals on the streets now. Most of our lives our fractured. Our families sundered. Our families scattered to the wind and when boomers aren't busy reverse mortgaging their cheap as dirt houses to drive up the prices and leave their children with absolutely nothing they are actively crusading to not only be the world police and disrupt the world, but invite the entire fucking world in. Of course, many people have no idea what it's like to live as a minority in the hometown you grew up in or have no family to speak and the rest are too busy watching negroid sphere or some other form of deracinated entertainment.

I get the impression that the racial aspect of your argument isn't widely accepted as fact by most Americans, nuke, but everything else in that post is something most of your fellow Americans, to a lesser or greater extent do seem to agree upon. A good example a year or so back, was a DCF thread about families where a single mother (or just a parent in a two-parents-working household) had let their kid play outside and gotten ratted out for "child endangerment". Even the resident US leftists were outraged from a perspective of "that would not have been a thing when I was a child".

As for the boomer virtuesignalling their love of foreign poor, while ignoring the poor at home and the world police issue: Do you think that they are able to "get away with" what they are doing because most people have been genuinely persuaded/duped into believing that what these self-avowedly "virtuous" boomer generation people, are good, moral, beneficial things to do? Or do you believe that most Americans have simply resigned themselves to not being able to do anything about those people destroying traditional society?

[Speaker to Animals]

Whether or not most Americans want to accept it, it actually is a fact. One can hardly avoid it any longer. Multiculturalism was a huge mistake. Don't repeat it, Euro.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Whether or not most Americans want to accept it, it actually is a fact. One can hardly avoid it any longer. Multiculturalism was a huge mistake. Don't repeat it, Euro.

How do you define multiculturalism?

[Speaker to Animals]

Whether or not most Americans want to accept it, it actually is a fact. One can hardly avoid it any longer. Multiculturalism was a huge mistake. Don't repeat it, Euro.

How do you define multiculturalism?

Not playing that game with you.

[Martin Hash]

"Diversity is divisory." - me

I use the term "heterogeneity" for what America was like when I was a kid. I lived West Coast, all that prejudice stuff was happening somewhere else. I couldn't tell a Jew from a Catholic, or a Vietnamese from a Japanese, and it was quaint when "foreign" culture mixed in with American culture. There was no sense of separation into ethnic or religious enclaves because everyone was trying to be an American: same clothes, same sports, same holidays, and of course, same language. It's still like that where I live. It's still like that in the Red States. Multiculturalism & socialism is the bulk of the Democratic Party: that seems to be the lesson of mass immigration, it works against a cohesive society, not for it.

[DBTrek]

That there is a market for paid retweets, to give the appearance of popularity of tweeted statement, liked comment, or FB post would suggest that there is a real psychological effect to seeing that a tweet, FB post, whatever social media post. Real enough that businesses post money in it. If your mind can be tricked to buy a soda by an illusion that it's "The Most Popular Soda among Cool People!", for example, then why would that same logic not apply to beliefs? Not everyone arrives at their beliefs and values after a long-term, introspective, well-reasoned, reading session after all.

Not just a paid market, but sometimes a national economy - see Bangladesh

I mentioned the book Influence in another thread. One section of the book discusses how the primary predictor of how people will behave in a public situation is other people. If someone is unconscious on the sidewalk and everyone else is walking by, people are much more likely to walk by. If someone is unconscious on a sidewalks, and two worried people are kneeling by them and they as you to call 911, you'll probably call 911. Peer pressure isn't the only factor at play when it comes to society's behaviors. There's a large portion of lemming-ness that goes along with it.

Diversity, on the other hand, is how Genghis Khan built the largest land based Empire in the world. When diversity works with synergy it is the bundle of arrows no man can break. When it works to divide, it is a chariot tethered to five horses running in opposite directions.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Whether or not most Americans want to accept it, it actually is a fact. One can hardly avoid it any longer. Multiculturalism was a huge mistake. Don't repeat it, Euro.

How do you define multiculturalism?

Not playing that game with you.

Why not?

[Speaker to Animals]

How do you define multiculturalism?

Not playing that game with you.

Why not?

Because we already know how that game is played. You quibble over the definition of multiculturalism, arguing that what we have is not really multiculturalism. I tell you that you can define it however you want, but I am talking about what we actually have, no matter what you want to call that. And then you disappear for a while.

Not worth anybody's time.

You know what I am talking about.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Not playing that game with you.

Why not?

Because we already know how that game is played. You quibble over the definition of multiculturalism, arguing that what we have is not really multiculturalism. I tell you that you can define it however you want, but I am talking about what we actually have, no matter what you want to call that. And then you disappear for a while.

Not worth anybody's time.

You know what I am talking about.

I always quote so i don't really disappear. You have, but there are different types.

[Speaker to Animals]

Why not?

Because we already know how that game is played. You quibble over the definition of multiculturalism, arguing that what we have is not really multiculturalism. I tell you that you can define it however you want, but I am talking about what we actually have, no matter what you want to call that. And then you disappear for a while.

Not worth anybody's time.

You know what I am talking about.

I always quote so i don't really disappear. You have, but there are different types.

You are doing exactly what I said. You are trying to play games with the word multiculturalism when you damned well know and understand I am referring to what we have in America, no matter what you want to call it. Sophistry is boring.