Sorting out shit heads would probably mean going full Nazi, i guess.Fife wrote:+1 Martin.Martin Hash wrote:Smitty said “no rules.”
That’ll be no rules then. (Here anyway, I still got to get famous.)
However, MUCH more important than "no rules," IMNSHO, is NO RULERS.
We can survive a rule or two; but we won't survive "moderation."
Other than you, sir, you own the place; it's your property to do with as you please. I'm just suggesting a strict NO RULERS ethos. It served Dan's forum pretty well until Dan decided to shutter the whole shop. Dan chose to close it all down rather than to impose "moderation." So be it. I trust you to make a reasoned decision as the owner of this place if something is too much for you to stomach being displayed on your property.
If you are going to have Kath, or anyone -- ANYONE -- in a position to impose some arbitrary correction for violation of some rule, this forum is going to suck the kind of donkey dick we've been subjected to lately.
Not fun; not productive; not worthwhile. It's either a Free Fire Zone or it's shit.
Again, this is not a personal attack on Kath, it's an attack on the office.
NO RULERS. The members of this forum are more than capable to police any mischief without threats and rumors of "moderation," or whatever. Fuck that noise. This is a barroom fight, as Smits would put it. We'll break some shit occasionally, we'll shit up each other occasionally, but overall we'll sort out the shitheads and move forward. Darwin didn't have any "moderators" or po-pos in his book, as far as I'm told.
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yepHwen Hoshino wrote:Sorting out shit heads would probably mean going full Nazi, i guess.Fife wrote:+1 Martin.Martin Hash wrote:Smitty said “no rules.”
That’ll be no rules then. (Here anyway, I still got to get famous.)
However, MUCH more important than "no rules," IMNSHO, is NO RULERS.
We can survive a rule or two; but we won't survive "moderation."
Other than you, sir, you own the place; it's your property to do with as you please. I'm just suggesting a strict NO RULERS ethos. It served Dan's forum pretty well until Dan decided to shutter the whole shop. Dan chose to close it all down rather than to impose "moderation." So be it. I trust you to make a reasoned decision as the owner of this place if something is too much for you to stomach being displayed on your property.
If you are going to have Kath, or anyone -- ANYONE -- in a position to impose some arbitrary correction for violation of some rule, this forum is going to suck the kind of donkey dick we've been subjected to lately.
Not fun; not productive; not worthwhile. It's either a Free Fire Zone or it's shit.
Again, this is not a personal attack on Kath, it's an attack on the office.
NO RULERS. The members of this forum are more than capable to police any mischief without threats and rumors of "moderation," or whatever. Fuck that noise. This is a barroom fight, as Smits would put it. We'll break some shit occasionally, we'll shit up each other occasionally, but overall we'll sort out the shitheads and move forward. Darwin didn't have any "moderators" or po-pos in his book, as far as I'm told.
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I always thought the only rule on DCF was “Don’t start threads calling out other members” or something. No doxing is a general netiquette rule.
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Hastur wrote:I always thought the only rule on DCF was “Don’t start threads calling out other members” or something. No doxing is a general netiquette rule.
Yes, that was a major rule. There was only like three major rules and they were:
1. Do not start threads to call people out. So no one could start a thread to just talk about one poster.
2. No threats of violence.
3. Do not post all of an article.
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But it was a consistent rule, it wasn't no posting attack threads about people we like but go ahead if its people we don't like.
Moreover, nobody ever invoked a phony baloney "ZOMG child porn!" rubric to justify their actions.
And I took Carlin himself, to the limit, forum slugfests for the ages, and he even asked to leave once, but he never once deleted one of my posts.
Perhaps the MHF will turn out to be a weakshit forum, but by DCF standards, Child Porn Sally and her cohorts, are way out of line here.
Moreover, nobody ever invoked a phony baloney "ZOMG child porn!" rubric to justify their actions.
And I took Carlin himself, to the limit, forum slugfests for the ages, and he even asked to leave once, but he never once deleted one of my posts.
Perhaps the MHF will turn out to be a weakshit forum, but by DCF standards, Child Porn Sally and her cohorts, are way out of line here.
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Dan asked some people to remove inappropriate images sometimes. The users always complied. It was a civilized place.
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Dan Carlin never had to threaten censorship or censor anyone to get what he wanted. Kath is not cut from his cloth unfortunately, all that time on the DCF, and it never sunk in how to properly moderate an internet forum.Hastur wrote:Dan asked some people to remove inappropriate images sometimes. The users always complied. It was a civilized place.
*yip*
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Nobody posted any of that here, Child Porn Sally just flew off the handle and went straight to full retard, Nanny Fun Police State without cause.Hastur wrote:Dan asked some people to remove inappropriate images sometimes. The users always complied. It was a civilized place.
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Even that rule was ignored by the moderators if it was me who was targeted. Moderators in general are shit unless you take them from various groups. When you have a small clique, they only enforce rules for their friends. This is a universal thing across the Internet. No personal insult intended.Hastur wrote:I always thought the only rule on DCF was “Don’t start threads calling out other members” or something. No doxing is a general netiquette rule.
If I recall, Smitty was targeted with his very own hate thread at least once as well. Nobody moderated that either.