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[Smitty-48]

47k vs 1100k KIA says the tactical contest was pretty one sided.

The Americans still clinging to the Body Count as their only metric, even fifty years after it was proven irrelevant to the strategic objective, and in fact self defeating therein. /shrugs

[Smitty-48]

What would you have done different? Retrain the marines to wear sandals and eat shit for 6 years?

I would have walked away in 1965, it was Kobayashi Maru, the American government knew it was a no win situation and just lied to the American people about it, you never stood a chance against the North Vietnamese, and Johnson and Pentagon said so to each other, while they were digging you in deeper.

You just back away slowly from South Vietnam, and reposition yourselves in Thailand, done and done, it's not the like the North Vietnamese were actually going to chase you, the Domino Theory was nonsense, all they wanted was national reunification and foreigners out, there was no reason to fight the Vietnam War in the first place, and you were going to get your asses handed to you no matter what you did, hence; get the heck out of there, early on, like I said, just walk away, in 1965.

It's all about strategy, and strategicaly, America simply talked herself into thinking she had to fight that war, and that she could win it, when in fact she was wrong in both cases, and should have just pulled back to Thailand, where, there was no Viet Cong nor NVA, and there wasn't going to be neither.

[Okeefenokee]

47k vs 1100k KIA says the tactical contest was pretty one sided.

The Americans still clinging to the Body Count as their only metric, even fifty years after it was proven irrelevant to the strategic objective, and in fact self defeating therein. /shrugs

I remember someone around here talking about the importance of strategy over tactics recently. Weird thing was he followed that up with some shit about the tactical prowess of the side that only inflicted four percent of the KIA that the other side did.

[Penner]

I am surprised that this place got attacked. It's so quiet and only a few old DCF regulars ever come here. Hell, there are probably only a couple of handful of users that actually make up the most content of this place and I wonder what is going on.

[Smitty-48]

47k vs 1100k KIA says the tactical contest was pretty one sided.

The Americans still clinging to the Body Count as their only metric, even fifty years after it was proven irrelevant to the strategic objective, and in fact self defeating therein. /shrugs

I remember someone around here talking about the importance of strategy over tactics recently. Weird thing was he followed that up with some shit about the tactical prowess of the side that only inflicted four percent of the KIA that the other side did.

The North Vietnamese were vastly superior; tactically, operationally, and strategically, the Americans had firepower, but that's about it, in every other way, the NVA was totally dominant over the Americans.

The Body Count was what the American chain of command chose as their metric, because they had no other measure, there was no front line, they weren't seizing real estate, and without real estate, they didn't know how to quantify, so they picked what the could quantify, but this actually led America further down the garden path into an even worse strategic disaster than it actually had to be, the Body Count was the single most self defeating aspect of the American war, with the arguable exception being the Domino Thoery itself.

[Okeefenokee]

The Americans still clinging to the Body Count as their only metric, even fifty years after it was proven irrelevant to the strategic objective, and in fact self defeating therein. /shrugs

I remember someone around here talking about the importance of strategy over tactics recently. Weird thing was he followed that up with some shit about the tactical prowess of the side that only inflicted four percent of the KIA that the other side did.

The North Vietnamese were vastly superior; tactically, operationally, and strategically, the Americans had firepower, but that's about it, in every other way, the NVA was totally dominant over the Americans.

lulz

On a tactical level, the Americans were inferior. They used their superior firepower to kill 23 times more gooks, but the NVA won on a tactical level.

[Xenophon]

DDoS filling the virus protection filters until tmp buffers are full.

Have you learned anything else, Martin?

[Speaker to Animals]

I am surprised that this place got attacked. It's so quiet and only a few old DCF regulars ever come here. Hell, there are probably only a couple of handful of users that actually make up the most content of this place and I wonder what is going on.

They are tying to stop us from making Valhalla Sector a reality.

[Smitty-48]

I remember someone around here talking about the importance of strategy over tactics recently. Weird thing was he followed that up with some shit about the tactical prowess of the side that only inflicted four percent of the KIA that the other side did.

The North Vietnamese were vastly superior; tactically, operationally, and strategically, the Americans had firepower, but that's about it, in every other way, the NVA was totally dominant over the Americans.

lulz

On a tactical level, the Americans were inferior. They used their superior firepower to kill 23 times more gooks, but the NVA won on a tactical level.

Tactically inferior because your tactics didn't amount to anything other than killing people for the sake of killing people, with you as the imperial invaders killing noble people fighting for their homeland, which is a black stain on your republic which will never rub off, whereas their tactics amounted to total victory in a war for national liberation, so, by defintion, your tactics were worse than useless, and actually self defeating on a massive strategic scale, which in fact, America has never recovered from even to this day.

You can't even look it in the face, and it's been over fifty years, that's how deep this scar runs in the American psyche, the Vietnamese don't even hold a grudge, they've moved on, but because you can never face it, it posesses you forevermore apparently.

[Okeefenokee]

The North Vietnamese were vastly superior; tactically, operationally, and strategically, the Americans had firepower, but that's about it, in every other way, the NVA was totally dominant over the Americans.

lulz

On a tactical level, the Americans were inferior. They used their superior firepower to kill 23 times more gooks, but the NVA won on a tactical level.

Tactically inferior because your tactics didn't amount to anything other than killing people for the sake of killing people, with you as the imperial ivaders killing noble people fighting for their homeland, which is a black stain on your republic which will never rub off, whereas their tactics amounted to total victory in a war for national liberation, so, by defintion, your tactics were worse than useless, and actually self defeating on a massive stratefgic scale, which in fact, America has never recopvered from even to this day.

Tactically inferior because tactics aren't strategy.

You're flailing.