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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:34 pm

DBTrek wrote:[Which brings up another factor in the North Vietnamese victory - We're not monsters.
Yeah, you're not monsters, but that's what the NVA was, it was a monster, and it chewed the US military up and spit it out into the China Seas, which, considering the relative power of the two countries, is nothing short of the best damn army in the history of the world, oh and by the way, them Vietnamese monsters? Yeah, they stomped the Mongols too, so that monster has always been there, squatting in the jungle eating fishheads and nuoc mam, since Christ was a Corporal in fact, America just didn't recognize the monster they were messing with.

The Americans weren't the monsters, no doubt, more like babes in the woods.
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Re: We're Under Attack

Post by DBTrek » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:37 pm

:lol:

Go tell it to Mad King George, ol' boy.
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Re: We're Under Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:40 pm

It would seem that fighting against an empire does motivate one to be a bad ass guerrilla warrior.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Post by DBTrek » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:42 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It would seem that fighting against an empire does motivate one to be a bad ass guerrilla warrior.
Canada wouldn't know.


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Re: We're Under Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:43 pm

:lol:
HAIL!

Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Re: We're Under Attack

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:43 pm

DBTrek wrote::lol:
Go tell it to Mad King George, ol' boy.
lulz
Oh, Mad King George rules here still, no doubt, cause we stomped you too, Madison & Co was jumping from the Heights a Queenston, to be dashed upon the rocks below, when we unleashed our monster, the Grand River Mohawks a howlin'...

...but, you know, that doesn't make us the NVA, I mean, were not in their league, we're nowhere near that hardcore, you didn't have any B-52's in 1812, and even the Somme was a firecracker festival, compared to the Arclight Strike.
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Post by DBTrek » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:46 pm

Canada wasn't even a country in 1812.
You're borrowing glory that doesn't belong to you.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:51 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It would seem that fighting against an empire does motivate one to be a bad ass guerrilla warrior.
The NVA weren't guerillas, they were a regular army, they hugged the belt to get inside of the American firepower defenses, but when the NVA came calling, they went toe-to toe, jungle war yes, but still conventional and symmetrical, once they got inside of the firepower by hugging the American belt, they overran American units with abandon, whole companies and sometimes even battalions of Americans, just wiped out at bayonet range.

So long as the Americans kept them at bay with artillery and airpower, the NVA was survivable, but once they got inside to bayonet range? It was no contest.
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Re: We're Under Attack

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:55 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It would seem that fighting against an empire does motivate one to be a bad ass guerrilla warrior.
The NVA weren't guerillas, they were a regular army, they hugged the belt to get inside of the American firepower defenses, but when the NVA came calling, they went toe-to toe, jungle war yes, but still conventional and symmetrical, once they got inside of the firepower by hugging the American belt, they overran American units with abandon, whole companies and sometimes even battalions of Americans, just wiped out at bayonet range.

So long as the Americans kept them at bay with artillery and airpower, the NVA was survivable, but once they got inside to bayonet range? It was no contest.
I pride myself on not letting trivial details get in the way of a snarky shitpost.
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Post by DBTrek » Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:56 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:The NVA weren't guerillas, they were a regular army, they hugged the belt to get inside of the American firepower defenses, but when the NVA came calling, they went toe-to toe, jungle war yes, but still conventional and symmetrical, once they got inside of the firepower by hugging the American belt, they overran American units with abandon, whole companies and sometimes even battalions of Americans, just wiped out at bayonet range.
And their reckless and relentless charge at American forces wound up like this:

US Forces: 47,378 KIA
ARVN: 223,748 KIA
NVA/VC: 1,100,000 KIA
http://www.rjsmith.com/kia_tbl.html

Yep.
Real artisans of warfare, they.
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