DCF Refugee Internment Camp

[TheReal_ND]

So average citizens decide whether war happens or not?

News to me

Recently, in the more developed countries. Yep.

It's true. We have Internet now.

[Ex-California]

So average citizens decide whether war happens or not?

News to me

Recently, in the more developed countries. Yep.

It's true. We have Internet now.

You guys are kidding yourself if you think that we have any say. There's some truth to DSL's explanation, but the movement isn't like a river, its like a glacier.

The opinion of the ones holding the money matters a lot more than the opinion of us proles.

[Hwen Hoshino]

Recently, in the more developed countries. Yep.

It's true. We have Internet now.

You guys are kidding yourself if you think that we have any say. There's some truth to DSL's explanation, but the movement isn't like a river, its like a glacier.

The opinion of the ones holding the money matters a lot more than the opinion of us proles.

Not on a war with lots of casualties.

[Ex-California]

Do you even History bro?

[Hwen Hoshino]

Do you even History bro?

Do you even recent history brah?

[Ex-California]

What's recent in your world?

In the real world, the two most costly and brutal wars in history are recent history.

[Montegriffo]

What's recent in your world?

In the real world, the two most costly and brutal wars in history are recent history.

In the real world it took several years both times for the politicians to wait for public opinion to be strong enough that they could declare war. In WWII it took a full on attack by the Japanese before opinion was strong enough in favour for you to join the war. Smaller lest costly wars in the ME not so much.

[Penner]

What's recent in your world?

In the real world, the two most costly and brutal wars in history are recent history.

In the real world it took several years both times for the politicians to wait for public opinion to be strong enough that they could declare war. In WWII it took a full on attack by the Japanese before opinion was strong enough in favour for you to join the war. Smaller lest costly wars in the ME not so much.

But we didn't have an all volunteer army back then- we do now and did have one for the Iraq and Afganistan wars. That is a big difference in that the public isn't so much invested (or at least more distracted by) since there is no draft for random amounts of people to be drafted to fight in future wars.

[Montegriffo]

What's recent in your world?

In the real world, the two most costly and brutal wars in history are recent history.

In the real world it took several years both times for the politicians to wait for public opinion to be strong enough that they could declare war. In WWII it took a full on attack by the Japanese before opinion was strong enough in favour for you to join the war. Smaller lest costly wars in the ME not so much.

But we didn't have an all volunteer army back then- we do now and did have one for the Iraq and Afganistan wars. That is a big difference in that the public isn't so much invested (or at least more distracted by) since there is no draft for random amounts of people to be drafted to fight in future wars.

Hey I'm just trying to counter the naive idea that politicians care nothing about public opinion when they commit to sending men to war. Don't go confusing things with totally relative facts.
If people haven't worked it out yet, what politicians are most interested in is re-election and unpopular wars are not good strategy for that.

[Penner]

In the real world it took several years both times for the politicians to wait for public opinion to be strong enough that they could declare war. In WWII it took a full on attack by the Japanese before opinion was strong enough in favour for you to join the war. Smaller lest costly wars in the ME not so much.

But we didn't have an all volunteer army back then- we do now and did have one for the Iraq and Afganistan wars. That is a big difference in that the public isn't so much invested (or at least more distracted by) since there is no draft for random amounts of people to be drafted to fight in future wars.

Hey I'm just trying to counter the naive idea that politicians care nothing about public opinion when they commit to sending men to war. Don't go confusing things with totally relative facts.
If people haven't worked it out yet, what politicians are most interested in is re-election and unpopular wars are not good strategy for that.