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[Smitty-48]

The Wars of French Hegemonic Succession; the American colonists dragged the British Crown into it, kicking and screaming, but once the powder keg was lit, the British had no choice but to simply go for all the marbles in a global war, the more the British resisted the overthrow of the status quo, the more the British tried to keep the war with the French Hegemon a cold war instead of a hot war, the more the Americans revolted against them.

Even when the British had defeated the French, they did not go far enough for the Americans, because the British were still clinging to their First Nations allies, and placing that relationship above the interests of the American colonists, at which point, the American colonists went into open revolt against the Crown.

[Montegriffo]

Starts with the Ohio Company sending Major George Washington to incite the French and Indian and by extension Seven Years War in 1753,

What was the British motivation for that move? Control of North America?

The British weren't in control of it, the Ohio Company inciting the French and Indian War in order to ultimately eject the French from the Ohio Valley so that the Americans could have it for themselves, is the first volley, of the Americans revolution against their own Crown. They were off the reservation, their interests had begun to diverge sharply from the status quo, so they did something about it; with crisis comes opportunity.

Ah, I'd not heard of the Ohio Company before. I was assuming they were a version of the British East India Company but in America. Seems my gap in knowledge about this period is biggly.

[TheReal_ND]

It was just a prank bro.

[Smitty-48]

What was the British motivation for that move? Control of North America?

The British weren't in control of it, the Ohio Company inciting the French and Indian War in order to ultimately eject the French from the Ohio Valley so that the Americans could have it for themselves, is the first volley, of the Americans revolution against their own Crown. They were off the reservation, their interests had begun to diverge sharply from the status quo, so they did something about it; with crisis comes opportunity.

Ah, I'd not heard of the Ohio Company before. I was assuming they were a version of the British East India Company but in America. Seems my gap in knowledge about this period is biggly.

The East India Company was different, the East India Company was mercantilist, extract resources from India for the industries in England, then export the products made to the rest of the Empire.

The Ohio Company were land speculators, take the Ohio Valley from the French and Indians, then parcel it up and sell it to sucessive waves of colonists at a massive profit.

[Montegriffo]

Trebuchet = French. Just accept it buddy.

Ah, a subject upon which I am not out of my depth.
Only the word is French, the origins of the counterweight trebuchet are in the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century and not in France at all.
Mike and I had a chat about extending the height of our existing frame and the building of a longer and stronger laminated beam over our game of pool today.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Trebuchet = French. Just accept it buddy.

Ah, a subject upon which I am not out of my depth.
Only the word is French, the origins of the counterweight trebuchet are in the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century and not in France at all.
Mike and I had a chat about extending the height of our existing frame and the building of a longer and stronger laminated beam over our game of pool today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet

Wikipedia traces it to the Byzantines in 1099. The first mention was by a Muslim historian, but it looks like Emperor Konstantinos had the big idea.

Now the question is whether that makes it Greek or Roman...

[Penner]

Still you Brits still wear our jeans

Now they ARE French.

The name "denim" derives from French serge de Nîmes, meaning "serge from Nîmes"

More of a corduroy (from the French "cloth of Kings" ) man myself

Yet, you like to wear our jeans....


http://www.levi.com/GB/en_GB/

[Penner]

No Penny, never French. A mixture of Saxons, Vikings, Normans, Dutch and Germans but never French....

Let's not live in denial (hint look at where some of their mothers were from)....

Ok, I'll give you Elanor of Aquitaine but as Aquitaine was under English rule at the time and she was of Norman descent not French it's a pyrrhic victory.
Ps her fathers castle is about 7 miles away from my house in France and is a real beauty.

Frenchie has a place in France, how cute.

[Penner]

When it comes to Kings "might is right" so when the Stuarts couldn't hold on to the throne they lost their "right".
After the battle of Culloden your Jacobites had no more claim to the throne......

So America was right.

Sure, it was your right to copy the French and become republicans.

They copied after us man, the French were just much closer to their king and queen- and someone just invented the guillotine around at the same time. The only thing that was able to save the heads of Parliament and King George, was well, an ocean.

[Montegriffo]

Still you Brits still wear our jeans

Now they ARE French.

The name "denim" derives from French serge de Nîmes, meaning "serge from Nîmes"

More of a corduroy (from the French "cloth of Kings" ) man myself

Yet, you like to wear our jeans....


http://www.levi.com/GB/en_GB/

Everyone likes to wear hard wearing clothes but you can hardly claim to have invented trousers and Denim is French.
I do admire many things about American culture though including some lovely cars, music, pool, basketball, beatniks and best of all Texas Hold 'Em.
I just enjoy trolling you for laughs. No need to get all Flipowitz about it Penny