Bought my first house

[Xenophon]

Jeez people, what are you getting lulled into here?


Johnny Cochran sophistry has a nice meter to it but its foundation is still bullshit. No one said deterrence is assurance - but it is most assuredly STILL deterrence. Strong deterrence at that, when we're talking about a possible end to the species. Likewise China and Biden aren't coming at the Russian borders. Nor are nukes are being warmed up. Step back from the punch bowl folks.

Nuclear exchange won't lead to an end to the species.

[DBTrek]

Jeez people, what are you getting lulled into here?


Johnny Cochran sophistry has a nice meter to it but its foundation is still bullshit. No one said deterrence is assurance - but it is most assuredly STILL deterrence. Strong deterrence at that, when we're talking about a possible end to the species. Likewise China and Biden aren't coming at the Russian borders. Nor are nukes are being warmed up. Step back from the punch bowl folks.

Nuclear exchange won't lead to an end to the species.

Ah, ok. Well I guess we are pressuring the Russians to imminently nuke us all then, and Nash equilibrium has just had an extremely lucky seventy years, but doesn't really work.
My bad.
Tell me the rest of the story.

[Smitty-48]

China is by definition on the Russian border, and the Russians have most of their troops facing the Chinese, not us

the O'Biden Administration has gone into Ukraine, also by definition on the Russian border

[DBTrek]

China is by definition on the Russian border, and the Russians have most of their troops facing the Chinese, not us

the O'Biden Administration has gone into Ukraine, also by definition on the Russian border

That happened today?
Or that happened years (in China's case, decades) ago with no nuclear exchange?

[Smitty-48]

China is by definition on the Russian border, and the Russians have most of their troops facing the Chinese, not us

the O'Biden Administration has gone into Ukraine, also by definition on the Russian border

That happened today?
Or that happened years (in China's case, decades) ago with no nuclear exchange?

I haven't said that a nuclear exchange is imminent

I don't even say it would be an exchange, I think the Russian's Nuclear Deescalation strategy would work

[DBTrek]

I haven't said that a nuclear exchange is imminent

I don't even say it would be an exchange, I think the Russian's Nuclear Deescalation strategy would work

Russia's Nuclear Deescalation strategy?

... Wait a minute, you crafty bastard ... are you talking about ... NUCLEAR DETERRENCE!?!?


I've missed you man, you're a rare artist among orators.

[Smitty-48]

I haven't said that a nuclear exchange is imminent

I don't even say it would be an exchange, I think the Russian's Nuclear Deescalation strategy would work

Russia's Nuclear Deescalation strategy?

... Wait a minute, you crafty bastard ... are you talking about ... NUCLEAR DETERRENCE!?!?


I've missed you man, you're a rare artist among orators.

again, I have not declaimed nuclear deterrence, quite the opposite

I'm simply saying that there is more than one way to employ it

several of those ways involving limited use by theater counterforce

[Martin Hash]

Jeez people, what are you getting lulled into here?


Johnny Cochran sophistry has a nice meter to it but its foundation is still bullshit. No one said deterrence is assurance - but it is most assuredly STILL deterrence. Strong deterrence at that, when we're talking about a possible end to the species. Likewise China and Biden aren't coming at the Russian borders. Nor are nukes are being warmed up. Step back from the punch bowl folks.

A clever narrative is entertaining no matter how unseemly.

[DBTrek]

Jeez people, what are you getting lulled into here?


Johnny Cochran sophistry has a nice meter to it but its foundation is still bullshit. No one said deterrence is assurance - but it is most assuredly STILL deterrence. Strong deterrence at that, when we're talking about a possible end to the species. Likewise China and Biden aren't coming at the Russian borders. Nor are nukes are being warmed up. Step back from the punch bowl folks.

A clever narrative is entertaining no matter how unseemly.

The man is a Pied Piper of forums, no doubt.
He'll hypnotize you and march you around in circles if he catches you dozing.
Canada's military is poorer for his retirement.

[Smitty-48]

thing about MAD being in effect over the pole, that actually becomes a shield for theater counterforce options

X nukes in theater does not result in Y massively retaliating, because MAD is precluding massive retaliation

once you inject non deterrent tactical nuclear weapons into the mix, MAD over the pole actually enables that option

you come in under the cover of MAD, using it as an enabler in of itself