The, "All Things English" thread

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by brewster » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:14 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:59 am
Seriously, folks, other than Hitler being astride the route to India and Indochina, tell me what interest Britain and France would have in declaring war on Germany because Germany invaded Poland to go after the Bolsheviks?

British colonial imperialism, French colonial imperialism, and fuckin' Churchill lying in wait to have another war.

It's not that complex, he caused the first war, and it was an utter catastrophe which destroyed his reputation, so he wanted a do over.
Your timelines are utterly fucked. Churchill was an out of power crank all during the 30's warning about Hitler with no one listening. Germany wasn't invading the USSR in Sept 1939, that was another 9 months later. Hitler had the Molotov-Ribbentrop peace pact, the Nazis and the USSR split their victim Poland like a couple of muggers. Churchill didn't return to government as 1st lord of Admiralty till 9/3/39, the day the UK declared war. Thus he was hardly the cause of the UK declaring war.
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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:17 pm

brewster wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:14 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:59 am
Seriously, folks, other than Hitler being astride the route to India and Indochina, tell me what interest Britain and France would have in declaring war on Germany because Germany invaded Poland to go after the Bolsheviks?

British colonial imperialism, French colonial imperialism, and fuckin' Churchill lying in wait to have another war.

It's not that complex, he caused the first war, and it was an utter catastrophe which destroyed his reputation, so he wanted a do over.
Your timelines are utterly fucked. Churchill was an out of power crank all during the 30's warning about Hitler with no one listening. Germany wasn't invading the USSR in Sept 1939, that was another 9 months later. Hitler had the Molotov-Ribbentrop peace pact, the Nazis and the USSR split their victim Poland like a couple of muggers. Churchill didn't return to government as 1st lord of Admiralty till 9/3/39, the day the UK declared war. Thus he was hardly the cause of the UK declaring war.
Churchill's father had business interests with the Rothschild family in Africa. Churchill was a stinky jewish lackey that couldn't stay sober enough to air his own speeches. He hired actors to broadcast them.

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:22 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:17 pm
brewster wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:14 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:59 am
Seriously, folks, other than Hitler being astride the route to India and Indochina, tell me what interest Britain and France would have in declaring war on Germany because Germany invaded Poland to go after the Bolsheviks?

British colonial imperialism, French colonial imperialism, and fuckin' Churchill lying in wait to have another war.

It's not that complex, he caused the first war, and it was an utter catastrophe which destroyed his reputation, so he wanted a do over.
Your timelines are utterly fucked. Churchill was an out of power crank all during the 30's warning about Hitler with no one listening. Germany wasn't invading the USSR in Sept 1939, that was another 9 months later. Hitler had the Molotov-Ribbentrop peace pact, the Nazis and the USSR split their victim Poland like a couple of muggers. Churchill didn't return to government as 1st lord of Admiralty till 9/3/39, the day the UK declared war. Thus he was hardly the cause of the UK declaring war.
Churchill's father had business interests with the Rothschild family in Africa. Churchill was a stinky jewish lackey that couldn't stay sober enough to air his own speeches. He hired actors to broadcast them.
The actors reading his speeches was a security measure. It enabled him to travel in secret while appearing to be in London making a broadcast.
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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:24 pm

I think all four leaders did that shit. There were these weird intelligence games going on. British ran Allied intelligence, Germans were obviously their own thing, and Stalin was just a sneaky rat bastard.

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:27 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:24 pm
I think all four leaders did that shit. There were these weird intelligence games going on. British ran Allied intelligence, Germans were obviously their own thing, and Stalin was just a sneaky rat bastard.
People are so mystified by Stalin's reaction to Hitler invading. Stalin was working with the US and England to make sure they did. He liquidated entire officer classes to keep them quite. He didn't want to be prepared for the German offensive. He wanted it to happen exactly like it did and he worked with higher powers the entire time all the way to the nuclear bomb.

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:29 pm

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:34 pm

I think FDR, Churchill, and Stalin are very possibly burning in Hell right now. They were all bad.

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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by brewster » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:34 pm
I think FDR, Churchill, and Stalin are very possibly burning in Hell right now. They were all bad.
Well, isn't that nice and simple? If only life was actually that simple. Some people really are more bad than others, Stalin & Hitler were exponentially worse than any argument you can possibly make against FDR and Churchill. All 4 were egotists and cynical manipulators, but only the former were dictators and mass executioners of their own people.
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Re: The, "All Things English" thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:30 pm

brewster wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:24 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:34 pm
I think FDR, Churchill, and Stalin are very possibly burning in Hell right now. They were all bad.
Well, isn't that nice and simple? If only life was actually that simple. Some people really are more bad than others, Stalin & Hitler were exponentially worse than any argument you can possibly make against FDR and Churchill. All 4 were egotists and cynical manipulators, but only the former were dictators and mass executioners of their own people.
I think you vastly underestimate Churchill's role in making two God damned world wars happen.

He was actually a real piece of shit. He and FDR were conspiring in secret for years about how to get Americans into that war.

And Churchill was no friend to your people either.