Collectivism Poll

Collectiisim vs Individualism - What do you believe?

Poll ended at Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:05 am

It takes a village...
3
38%
the village is full of crooks and tyrants...
5
63%
 
Total votes: 8

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:34 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:31 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:18 pm
Fife wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:14 pm
"Individual v. collective" is a false dichotomy.

The question is: "voluntary v. compulsory."

Or, if you prefer, "voluntary v. rent-seeking armed-robbery mafia"
Guess how it became a "rent-seeking armed-robbery mafia"..

Hint: it started with one of Hamilton's ideas.
Hamilton had some doozies, alright.

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The reality is that, when we transitioned to a standing army, the federal government -- and indeed state governments -- became an armed gang that extracts resources from the proles. When every voter is also in the military, that's not really the case so much.

Now.. I am not for fucking up a strong professional army just so people don't get fleeced by the state, myself. I would just make enfranchisement optional. All you have to do is enlist. I might even consider doing away with police and just making law enforcement a military role of some kind. That's just me, though.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Fife » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:37 am

It really is amazing how quickly Hamilton and his boy Washington consummated their counter-revolution.

The Whiskey Rebellion is really worthy of study.

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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by heydaralon » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:44 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:37 am
It really is amazing how quickly Hamilton and his boy Washington consummated their counter-revolution.

The Whiskey Rebellion is really worthy of study.
Hogeland wrote a book about it that is pretty good. I must warn you it has some important historical discussion that might go over your head and confuse you a bit. You would probably be capable of understanding at least 60% of the book, which is nothing to be ashamed of...
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:24 am

As long as I’m king and have the final say, you guys can come up with any kind of government, or lack thereof, you want.

p.s. I am the most qualified ever so me being king doesn’t even require a discussion.
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Fife » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:01 am

Stan Lee is as dead as fried chicken, but Übermensch is still rockin' I see.

:goteam: :drunk:




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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by heydaralon » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:05 am

The ubermensch drink the finest whiskey, bonded and taxed. The inferior rotgut swill is drank by Lebensnwertes Leben who are too poor and pitiful to pay their taxes for their beverage. It is conceivable that this whiskey is so terrible that the government wouldn't even want to tax it, because it is beneath them to even associate with such filth.
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:07 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:01 am
Stan Lee is as dead as fried chicken, but Übermensch is still rockin' I see.

:goteam: :drunk:




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I, of course, have that comic; it hangs on the wall in my "Comics Room."
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Montegriffo » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:17 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:24 am
As long as I’m king and have the final say, you guys can come up with any kind of government, or lack thereof, you want.

p.s. I am the most qualified ever so me being king doesn’t even require a discussion.
Only one qualification counts when it comes to being the King.
Can you answer yes to this one question?

Was your father or Uncle the King?
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:33 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:17 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:24 am
As long as I’m king and have the final say, you guys can come up with any kind of government, or lack thereof, you want.

p.s. I am the most qualified ever so me being king doesn’t even require a discussion.
Only one qualification counts when it comes to being the King.
Can you answer yes to this one question?

Was your father or Uncle the King?
Oh, yeah. Make it fuhrer.
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Re: Collectivism Poll

Post by Kath » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:54 am

Both. Silly choices; polls should not provide a false dichotomy.
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