The case for states' rights

[nickle7]

Thought I'd start a thread for informative discussion on the benefits and drawbacks of this common topic. I'm generally tend to advocate for a smaller, more localized government but also realize the logistical drawbacks to this general policy. So, what are the best arguments for and against states' rights?

[TheReal_ND]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

[Xenophon]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

If you don't care about effectiveness, the Articles are great! If you're all in for extreme decentralization, then the Articles would work fine. If you want a cohesive government that can enforce its laws, go with the Constitution.

[nickle7]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

If you don't care about effectiveness, the Articles are great! If you're all in for extreme decentralization, then the Articles would work fine. If you want a cohesive government that can enforce its laws, go with the Constitution.

Yeah, so if the bulk of the nations' laws were dictated by individual states, logistically, how would that work? If potentially every law was different in potentially every state, movement between states would be so difficult as to limit mobility between them. Maybe I've just gotta read all the Articles together...

[Okeefenokee]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

I've read arguments in defense of the articles. There are some valid points. For one, for all of the talk about how ineffectual the articles were, we did win independence under them.

[Speaker to Animals]

I never read a good argument against them. I usually encounter the official narrative as we read here, which does not contain any evidence to support it.

[Ex-California]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

If you don't care about effectiveness, the Articles are great! If you're all in for extreme decentralization, then the Articles would work fine. If you want a cohesive government that can enforce its laws, go with the Constitution.

Pretty much.

If you want a lose confederation of states, like looser than the EU, go for the Articles.

There's no way the US would have gained global hegemony without the Constitution, nor would have Manifest Destiny been realized. We'd be a hodgepodge of semi-losers like South America

[Okeefenokee]

I was just talking to someone that is far more learned on the subject that seems to maintain the Articles of Confederation were superior to the Constitution. I'm still a bit sceptical because the Constitution only mandates a few federalist proponents, those being mainly marshal in character to my knowledge.

If you don't care about effectiveness, the Articles are great! If you're all in for extreme decentralization, then the Articles would work fine. If you want a cohesive government that can enforce its laws, go with the Constitution.

Pretty much.

If you want a lose confederation of states, like looser than the EU, go for the Articles.

There's no way the US would have gained global hegemony without the Constitution, nor would have Manifest Destiny been realized. We'd be a hodgepodge of semi-losers like South America

That's not a certainty. We're a lot different than them culturally and always have been.