I was just banned from the"Hardcore History with Dan Carlin" FB group.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Where's the oil?

Aramco = America's Oil



keep your fucking troops out of my sight, bitch

[TheReal_ND]

So we invaded Saudi Arabia? What's your point? You said we invaded for oil.

[SuburbanFarmer]

So we invaded Saudi Arabia? What's your point? You said we invaded for oil.

thought you were woke?

9/11 hijackers almost all Saudis. America invents some bullshit, and snap-invades 2 other countries instead. Why?

Saudi oil = America's oil. They're our special vassal state, and protected by the MIC as a strategic resource.

[TheReal_ND]

Destabilizing competitors oil feilds is a plausible motive, I just wanted to shoot down that "we invaded them for oil," nonsense. It would almost be better if we did actually seize something to make it worth our while. Not that cheap oil benefits our economy in any way.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Destabilizing competitors oil feilds is a plausible motive, I just wanted to shoot down that "we invaded them for oil," nonsense. It would almost be better if we did actually seize something to make it worth our while. Not that cheap oil benefits our economy in any way.

Oh sure. That’s how we keep cranking out plastic bullshit, and import/export all over the world. It’s about transportation, baby.

[Speaker to Animals]

Iraq was not selling oil to any large degree before the war. The result of the war was lifting the embargo, which flooded supply a little. That war did not help the Saudis one bit.

Also, Iraq is now under Iran's influence. That sucks for House Saud.

[Martin Hash]

I get what Grumps is saying but he couches it in such ridiculous conspiratorial terms, he loses the rhetorical debate. Bush Sr. was an oil man, very close to the Saudis. Bush Jr. was influenced by Cheney & the other NeoCons to pursue activities that were obviously dishonest, and ultimately counter to America's best interests. It's the NeoCons who should be held accountable. Cheney belongs in jail.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I get what Grumps is saying but he couches it in such ridiculous conspiratorial terms, he loses the rhetorical debate. Bush Sr. was an oil man, very close to the Saudis. Bush Jr. was influenced by Cheney & the other NeoCons to pursue activities that were obviously dishonest, and ultimately counter to America's best interests. It's the NeoCons who should be held accountable. Cheney belongs in jail.

Agree on all counts, but I'm a little confused why you wouldn't call it a conspiracy. Bushy would do anything it takes to secure his family's 'special relationship' with Saud. That's just business as usual in your opinion?

[Martin Hash]

I get what Grumps is saying but he couches it in such ridiculous conspiratorial terms, he loses the rhetorical debate. Bush Sr. was an oil man, very close to the Saudis. Bush Jr. was influenced by Cheney & the other NeoCons to pursue activities that were obviously dishonest, and ultimately counter to America's best interests. It's the NeoCons who should be held accountable. Cheney belongs in jail.

Agree on all counts, but I'm a little confused why you wouldn't call it a conspiracy. Bushy would do anything it takes to secure his family's 'special relationship' with Saud. That's just business as usual in your opinion?

If you mean going to war with Iraq? No. That's NeoCon bullshit. Letting the Saudi's use restricted airspace immediately after 9/11 so that they could escape American retribution - you're right.

[C-Mag]

I get what Grumps is saying but he couches it in such ridiculous conspiratorial terms, he loses the rhetorical debate. Bush Sr. was an oil man, very close to the Saudis. Bush Jr. was influenced by Cheney & the other NeoCons to pursue activities that were obviously dishonest, and ultimately counter to America's best interests. It's the NeoCons who should be held accountable. Cheney belongs in jail.

Agree on all counts, but I'm a little confused why you wouldn't call it a conspiracy. Bushy would do anything it takes to secure his family's 'special relationship' with Saud. That's just business as usual in your opinion?

The House of Saud has been working us since the first meeting with FDR on the USS Quincy. When the Ibn Saud demanded the meeting wouldn't take place unless he could bring his goats on to our war ship we should have known it was going to be weird fucked relationship.

Hold the NeoCons accountable, I'm good with that, but if you leave out there ugly wicked stepmother the Progressives you'll never fix it.