Socialism

[Zlaxer]

I understand socialism a lot better ever since I started listening to Mike Duncan's Revolutions podcast.

Really parsing out the French Revolution helped sort the continuum out for me.

Looking forward to his Russian Revolution series... coming soon.

Quick summary - Mobilizing the plebs has been a power play move since the dawn of large scale politics... often not in the interests of the plebs themselves... but has moved pleb interests forward from time to time....

Also has moved them backwards...more often than not...

The problem is the elite are greedy and the poor are dumb as fuck....thus, the middle/lower upper classes get screwed.

[DrYouth]

Also has moved them backwards...more often than not...

The problem is the elite are greedy and the poor are dumb as fuck....thus, the middle/lower upper classes get screwed.

Well we have come a long way since the French Revolution...

Noble privilege and Church control of state and land are hardly an issue in today's western world...
Although some (perhaps some on the forum) might question whether even that was a move forward.

Universal suffrage was hardly dreamed about and is now the norm in the western world.

Protections for worker's rights, weekends, maternity leaves, etc... etc... these things were never even dreamed of and are now taken almost for granted.

So saying that it moved pleb intersts backwards more often than not is not the case...

That if often moved pleb interests backwards and very far backwards in many cases is certainly true...

But socialism isn't just the worst case scenarios... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Chaves...
It has also had more benign manifestations... Canadian socialism, Scandinavian socialism... also with pros and cons...
It's weak to demonise the entire construct.... as much as demonizing capitalism... which also has had pros and cons.

The combination of light socialism and strong capitalism has had the best results... USA and 5 eyes...

[C-Mag]

Tales from the PRP

Man challenges governments traffic light set up, that was designed to bring money into PRP government coffers, in return, gets fined for calling himself an Engineer. In the PRP, they think they get to control speech and actions.

Järlström is now suing the state board over that fine, arguing that it's unconstitutional to prevent someone from doing math without the government's permission.

Järlström won, he can now do math without the PRP's permission.
It's pretty clear what happened here. Järlström used his working knowledge and education to show the PRP traffic light system was designed to fuck people over and the PRP decided to get some revenge by going after the man. Thankfully the PRP lost.

https://reason.com/blog/2017/04/26/afte ... meras-oreg
https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/02/judg ... gineer-has

[Speaker to Animals]

It's just their culture and mentality. The mistake here is thinking there should be one value for all of the US. Those people love state licensing. Yankees in particular jizz themselves over credentials bestowed by the state. It's their Puritan heritage.

[DrYouth]

Tales from the PRP

What does PRP stand for?

[DBTrek]

People’s Republic of Portland.
C-Mag is trying out his talk-radioesque cutesy phrases.

[Fife]

We gotta work PRP into the name/tagline of the podcast some way.

[C-Mag]

People’s Republic of Portland.
C-Mag is trying out his talk-radioesque cutesy phrases.

I honestly don't think I got it from talk radio, but may have indirectly. It just works.

[DBTrek]

People’s Republic of Portland.
C-Mag is trying out his talk-radioesque cutesy phrases.

I honestly don't think I got it from talk radio, but may have indirectly. It just works.

I think it’s an original, but surely you see the similarity to more popular radio phrases like “libtards, feminazi, left coast, dumbocrats, etc”.

Plus this has been a thing for a while:

[DrYouth]

Also has moved them backwards...more often than not...

The problem is the elite are greedy and the poor are dumb as fuck....thus, the middle/lower upper classes get screwed.

Well we have come a long way since the French Revolution...

Noble privilege and Church control of state and land are hardly an issue in today's western world...
Although some (perhaps some on the forum) might question whether even that was a move forward.

Universal suffrage was hardly dreamed about and is now the norm in the western world.

Protections for worker's rights, weekends, maternity leaves, etc... etc... these things were never even dreamed of and are now taken almost for granted.

So saying that it moved pleb intersts backwards more often than not is not the case...

That if often moved pleb interests backwards and very far backwards in many cases is certainly true...

But socialism isn't just the worst case scenarios... Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Chaves...
It has also had more benign manifestations... Canadian socialism, Scandinavian socialism... also with pros and cons...
It's weak to demonise the entire construct.... as much as demonizing capitalism... which also has had pros and cons.

The combination of light socialism and strong capitalism has had the best results... USA and 5 eyes...

I was expecting more of a response to this post...

Is this uncontroversial?