Taxation without representation, home ownership and other forms of taxes.

[BjornP]

There are countries outside of NATO with our standard of living, Capps. The idea that it only exists this way because it's "propped up", is a simplistic fake news talking point.

Not that I care either way. I, and most Danes, don't want to become some carbon copy of America. You feel free to believe that your subjective preference for an American way of life is really an objective one. I, otoh, gladly admit that my preference for a Danish way of life for Danes, in Denmark is subjective. Doesn't need to be anything else.

Home is home. Family is family. Tribe is tribe. Fuck the neighbour's grass.

[StCapps]

There are countries outside of NATO with our standard of living, Capps. The idea that it only exists this way because it's "propped up", is a simplistic fake news talking point.

Not that I care either way. I, and most Danes, don't want to become some carbon copy of America. You feel free to believe that your subjective preference for an American way of life is really an objective one. I, otoh, gladly admit that my preference for a Danish way of life for Danes, in Denmark is subjective. Doesn't need to be anything else.

Home is home. Family is family. Tribe is tribe. Fuck the neighbour's grass.

All nations are propped up by American power and prosperity. Same applies to Canada, America protects the Crown better than Canada could ever dream of and is propping up the Canadian welfare state thanks to dining out on access to the American market.

It's not a fake news talking point, it's the truth that America haters do not want to hear. You want to pretend that Denmark's prosperity is all on Denmark, but that is not reality. Without America, Denmark would have much less money to spend on the shit you find important, and would have to become more like America just to pay the bills or you'd suffer more for not doing so.

America allows you to have your cake and eat it too, and you don't even give them credit for it.

[BjornP]

Fake news talking point absent of any logic or knowledge, Capps. The idea that the US is "propping up" the welfare states of countries it's not even, nor ever has been, allied with is nonsense and you know it. Explain how Finland is "propped up" by American power and prosperity?

[StCapps]

Fake news talking point absent of any logic or knowledge, Capps. The idea that the US is "propping up" the welfare states of countries it's not even, nor ever has been, allied with is nonsense and you know it. Explain how Finland is "propped up" by American power and prosperity?

Freedom of Navigation backed by American naval makes it far cheaper for Finland to import products which leaves more money in people's pockets, which gives them the ability to raise taxes and pay for their welfare state. America also buys their products, which produces more wealth for Fins, which makes the welfare state more affordable. American military might allows Fins to spend less on the military than they would otherwise have to and allows them to spend that money on the welfare state instead.

America is clearly propping the Fins up, especially their welfare state. If you like a more robust welfare state, thank America for allowing you to afford it.

[BjornP]

Lol, so without US naval power, there'd be serious pirating in the Baltic and North Sea? And being a trading partner (and not the primary one, at that) is being "propped up" by the US?

That was weak, Capps. I forgive you, though, since I know it must be about midnight in Canaderp right now, so you probably need to sleep in order to wake up and understand how weak your argument is tomorrow.

[StCapps]

Lol, so without US naval power, there'd be serious pirating in the Baltic and North Sea? And being a trading partner (and not the primary one, at that) is being "propped up" by the US?

That was weak, Capps. I forgive you, though, since I know it must be about midnight in Canaderp right now, so you probably need to sleep in order to wake up and understand how weak your argument is tomorrow.

Without America in the Baltic and North Sea, you Euro's would have to spend the money instead to fill the vacuum. America is saving you money, and you are being delusional about it. Getting wealthy because of America, is being propped up by America, derp.

[BjornP]

You're pulling inane statements of non-facts out of thin air, Capps. It must be a wonder to you to learn that countries in Europe even existed before the US came into being, without being "propped up" by the US.

[StCapps]

You're pulling inane statements of non-facts out of thin air, Capps. It must be a wonder to you to learn that countries in Europe even existed before the US came into being, without being "propped up" by the US.

America props up the world economy, things have changed since before America existed, and Denmark has benefited greatly from America's ascendance as have many other countries. You simply refuse to give America any credit, like a typical America Hater.

[BjornP]

"America Hater". Not being a submissive toady who thinks America's grass is the lushest and greenest in the world doesn't mean I "hate" America. Stop taking a page out of the SJW handbook and turning every bit of disagreement or criticism as "hate". Fucked up victimhood culture.

[StCapps]

"America Hater". Not being a submissive toady who thinks America's grass is the lushest and greenest in the world doesn't mean I "hate" America. Stop taking a page out of the SJW handbook and turning every bit of disagreement or criticism as "hate". Fucked up victimhood culture.

I simply give credit where it is due, while you deny any credit is due.
/shrugs