Why Can’t America Have Beerhalls?

[Montegriffo]

Anglos are the master race, btw. Fuck the Germans.

Interesting documentary on the BBC the other day about how the Celts saved Britain. First episode covered St Patrick. Turns out the godless pagan Anglo Saxons captured the Romano British Patrick and sold him into slavery to the Celts in Ireland where he spread Chistianity by converting the main King.
Before the Anglo Saxons arrived the British celts had been turning to Christianity and at first the new invaders set Britain back to Paganism. I'll look it up on the BBC I-player and post a link for you.
It's a two parter made about 5 years ago and I've not seen the second one yet.

[Montegriffo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b ... vilisation

Dan Snow blows the lid off the traditional, Anglo-centric view of history and reveals how the Irish saved Britain from cultural oblivion during the Dark Ages, in this provocative, two-part documentary.

Travelling back in time to some of the remotest corners of the British Isles, Dan unravels the mystery of the lost years of 400-800 AD, when the collapse of the Roman Empire left Britain in tatters.

In the first episode, Dan shows how in the 5th century AD Roman 'Britannia' was plunged into chaos by the arrival of Anglo-Saxon invaders. As Roman civilisation disappeared from Britain, a new civilisation emerged in one of the most unlikely places - Ireland. Within a few generations, Christianity transformed a backward, barbarian country into the cultural powerhouse of early medieval Europe.

This is a visually and intellectually stimulating journey through one of the least known chapters of British history

Don't know if this works in the US. If it does I'll find the link for part 2.

[Speaker to Animals]

Anglos are the master race, btw. Fuck the Germans.

Interesting documentary on the BBC the other day about how the Celts saved Britain. First episode covered St Patrick. Turns out the godless pagan Anglo Saxons captured the Romano British Patrick and sold him into slavery to the Celts in Ireland where he spread Chistianity by converting the main King.
Before the Anglo Saxons arrived the British celts had been turning to Christianity and at first the new invaders set Britain back to Paganism. I'll look it up on the BBC I-player and post a link for you.
It's a two parter made about 5 years ago and I've not seen the second one yet.

I have listened to some good university lectures on the history of the Saxons. The Church re-converted Britannia after a few centuries. When the continent was in a dark age, Saxons were in what is known as the Saxon Renaissance. Filthy Danes put an end to that for a while, though.

[clubgop]

My part of America has plenty of beerhalls, and beerhall culture.

Our best ones are the outdoors ones.

It must really, really suck to be a yankee. My condolences.

:goteam: :drunk:

NASCAR races holy shit.

[Penner]

The Know Nothings came about in response to a massive and sudden influx of Nordics, the Forty Eighters, the Germans fleeing the German Revolution in 1848, the Scots-Irish of America in the 19th century despised the Nordic foreigners just as much as they despised the Catholics and Jews.

The No Nothings were against the Catholic Irish and were a response to the Irish. No one gave a damn about the Germans. There were loads of Germans in the US well before the mid-1800s in America but what made the No Nothings was the Catholic Irish. Also, good portions of Germans were Lutherans- which are not what the No Nothings were afraid of. They thought that Catholics and Irish were taking over the US so they banded together to try to get rid of them.

You don't know your own history.

You can see a Know Nothing propaganda poster from the time, right here, note the Irish Catholic and German Forty Eighter featured hand in hand, and note the emphasis on alcohol, Irish Whisky and German Beer, the Devil's work, the Know Nothings were the nascent Temperance leagues.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180961915/

And it's Know Nothings, not "No Nothings", by the way, since you fancy yourself knowledgeable on the subject, might want to get that right, eh?

FYI, the Know Nothings were just as opposed to the German influx, because they saw them as drunkards, the whole point was Temperance, it wasn't racism, they were all white people, they just the saw the Catholics and Germans, and all Europeans really, as being drunkards who did not live up to the strict hyper protestant teetotaling values of the Great Awakening.

Yes, the Protestants in America brought their anti-Catholic zeal with them on the boat from England, although it's not that they thought that the Catholics were going to "take over", their position was simply that a Catholic was loyal to the Pope in Rome first, and so could never be loyal to the republic.

It's been an urban-rural divide all along, the Catholics and immigrants lived in the cities, they might be able to take over in New York, but they couldn't take over the country, because the Anglo-Saxon Protestant Scots-Irish ran the whole rest of the country, particularly in the South and Mid-West, electoral college for the win.

The Know Nothings however, were on about the wickedness of alcohol and how it was destroying America, which all arose, again, from the Great Awakening starting around 1820, the baseline anti-Catholic rubrics were taken to another level, and it expanded beyond Catholics to anyone who did not follow the strict Protestant teetotaling of Temperance, to include Germans and their beer. Particularly the brewers, Miller, Schlitz, Anheuser, Busch, etcetera.

This all built up for a century, culminating in 1920 with Prohibition, when the Know Nothings, which by then had evolved into the Anti Saloon League, finally got the 18th amendment, banning the Devil's work, drinking, which was destroying America according to them, and the chief offenders were the immigrants and descendants of, Irish, Italians, and Germans, but the biggest nemesis by far to the Know Nothings and their Temperance, wasn't the Irish, nor the Italians, it was the Germans, led by the brewers.

Smitty I say you are full of shit to not think that the Know Nothings weren't a response to the Irish Catholics. The Germans meet much less resistant than the Irish because Germany was considered majority Protestant and there were a good number of Germans here before the influx from the mid-1800s.

[Smitty-48]

Smitty I say you are full of shut to not think that the Know Nothings weren't a response to the Irish Catholics.

I didn't say they weren't anti-Papists, you said they didn't care about the Germans, so you're the one who is "full of shut" lols.

The Know Nothings were far more than simply Anti-Papist Irish haters, that's a superficial and ultimately incorrect analysis.

[Smitty-48]

Moreover, your assumption that because the Krauts were mostly Protestants, therefore the Scots-Irish Know Nothings welcomed them, that's not the case neither, simply being Protestant was not sufficient to override the fact that you were a Foreign Devil and a drunkard who did not embrace the Great Awakening, the Scots-Irish weren't just Protestants, they were hyper Protestants. Plenty of infighting on the Protestant side, Lutherans were no Presbyterians.

[Speaker to Animals]

Most German immigrants were Catholics, genius. Germany was half Catholic and half Protestant. Most German immigrants moved to the Midlands or to the Yankee cities. Scots-Irish really didn't interact with them much until the 20th century, or maybe a bit on the cultural borderlands like Pennsylvania.

[Smitty-48]

It was about half n' half, North and South Germans fled the revolution both.

None the less, Niggers, Spicks, Eyeties, Micks, Krauts, the Scots-Irish hated them all with a passion.

WASP Scots-Irish or GTFO.

[Smitty-48]

Also bear in mind, the Know Nothings were the Original Alt Right, they hated the cities, they hated all things urban, and all the immigrants were flooding into the cities, so in fact, the Know Nothings were not picking and choosing, they didn't want anymore immigrants at all.