Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Hastur » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:52 am

GloryofGreece wrote:Anyone ever read Drangonlance or Forgotten Realms novels?
I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

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GloryofGreece wrote:Anyone ever read Drangonlance or Forgotten Realms novels?
I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.
Crystal Shard, Dark Elf Triology, etc. good shit. Watched an interview on Salavtore...he's sold more than 17 million books! wasn't expecting that type of success from a D&D writer. Good for him.
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:53 am

Hastur wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:Anyone ever read Drangonlance or Forgotten Realms novels?
I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.

Out of your mind. The original Dragonlance novels are pretty good.

The first couple of books about Drizzt are pretty good. The D&D novel subgenre gets exhausting after that. Just those first few novels in those series are worth your time.

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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by GloryofGreece » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:43 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hastur wrote:
GloryofGreece wrote:Anyone ever read Drangonlance or Forgotten Realms novels?
I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.

Out of your mind. The original Dragonlance novels are pretty good.

The first couple of books about Drizzt are pretty good. The D&D novel subgenre gets exhausting after that. Just those first few novels in those series are worth your time.
I loved the Drizzt series. Got me through my preteens and early teenage years. Were you more a Wulfgar man or another side character catch your attention more?

Do you like the GOT series on HBO? Any other medieval fantasy you're into? Or historical fiction?
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:45 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hastur wrote: I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.

Out of your mind. The original Dragonlance novels are pretty good.

The first couple of books about Drizzt are pretty good. The D&D novel subgenre gets exhausting after that. Just those first few novels in those series are worth your time.
I loved the Drizzt series. Got me through my preteens and early teenage years. Were you more a Wulfgar man or another side character catch your attention more?

Do you like the GOT series on HBO? Any other medieval fantasy you're into? Or historical fiction?

I was more a of Drizzt guy. Raistlin too. Fizban was the greatest.

I got only a few minutes into GoT. When they started playing midget porn, I was like...

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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Hastur » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:07 pm

GloryofGreece wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hastur wrote: I read some. Wouldn't recommend any of them. Except perhaps R. A. Salvatore's books about Drizzt.

Dragonlance is a mess. If you like the style of Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis read the Rose of the Prophet books instead.

Out of your mind. The original Dragonlance novels are pretty good.

The first couple of books about Drizzt are pretty good. The D&D novel subgenre gets exhausting after that. Just those first few novels in those series are worth your time.
I loved the Drizzt series. Got me through my preteens and early teenage years. Were you more a Wulfgar man or another side character catch your attention more?

Do you like the GOT series on HBO? Any other medieval fantasy you're into? Or historical fiction?
StA is right about Paul Anderson's The Broken Sword. It's a must read if you're into the foundation of the fantasy genre. One of the best books I've ever read.
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:12 pm

I read a bunch of the Drizzt books--were like five sold together?--because of "Baldur's Gate," the game. I found them forgettable, but not terrible. The first three "Dragonlance" books were cool, but they took a nosedive around book five or something. "Game of Thrones" was painfully disappointing! The first book started out great--a real page turner (I might add that was was very ill at the time) but it grew wearisome before it was over--nevertheless, as some well-meaning person bought me the other two, I read them... very slowly... like failing students' papers. I'll watch the HBO series when it comes back on, but only because I want them all to die horribly.
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Post by Hastur » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:17 pm

Calling GoT fantasy is like calling StarWars Science Fiction.
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Hastur » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:26 pm

The first Dragonlance books were based on their RPG campaign. They read just slightly better than an excited teen role player reselling their latest game session. That's why they don't have a coherent arc or proper ending. It was a total surprise hit. Most of TSR didn't understand what they thought they were doing when they made DL but it worked. It resonated with the RPG crowd and it changed the industry. After DL everyone wanted to create worlds and stories instead of just single adventures and set pieces.
Without DL you get no Vampire the Gathering or Shadowrun or Kult or any of the peak of RPG. It wasn't great but it was a new concept.
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Re: Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, JRR TOLKIEN, Myths and Stories

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:15 pm

Yeah, DL novels are good when you realize this is a game transferred to a novel. It's genius once you understand that.