The Truth About Veganism

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Hastur » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:57 am

Now I had to look up what they do with bull calves in India. Turns out holiness can have its backsides.

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Usually at a Dairy farm we expect 50% animals to be males and 50.% as females. Since the interest of a Dairy farmer lies in female calves, he is compelled to cull a male calf.

Since cow slaughter is banned in most of the states of India, farmers are left with two options. Either to raise these calves as draught purpose animals for work in agriculture fields or some may raise a better genetic worth calf for breeding purpose.

The changing trends brought about by advances in science and technology has replaced both these alternatives of calf rearing. Mechanization has replaced bulls as draught animal's in organized agriculture sector in most parts of India and With the help of Artificial insemination even semen of one bull can be used for insemination of thousands of cows.

Now the only option left with farmers is to cull these calves at a very young age, mostly weaning is done at 4months of age in rural conditions. Then these male calves roam free on roads owing to the lack of gaushalas and Other alternatives some also starve to death. At times we have cases of butting of pedestrians by the bulls .

A male cattle in modern times has no other use except for meat purpose, but owing to the religious beliefs and sentiments here it couldn't be slaughtered. Alternatively people must ponder about what happens to these calves after weaning, their welfare is severely compromised with no feed and shelter thy are left to die a horrible death.

Govt must improve the conditions of gaushalas and make proper arrangements for weaned and culled calves. In coming times a new technoligy of sexed semen (sex can be determined before insemination) which is yet in its infancy, can help in having more female and very less male calves ,which will help in tackling the problem of ill management of male calves.
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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by brewster » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am

Hastur wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:57 am
Now I had to look up what they do with bull calves in India. Turns out holiness can have its backsides.
Wow, that's some industrial scale cognitive dissonance. But perhaps its just par for the course of the human habit of externalizing costs, not much different from us happily burning hydrocarbons till we drown.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 am

brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am
Hastur wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:57 am
Now I had to look up what they do with bull calves in India. Turns out holiness can have its backsides.
Wow, that's some industrial scale cognitive dissonance. But perhaps its just par for the course of the human habit of externalizing costs, not much different from us happily burning hydrocarbons till we drown.
Maybe we want the coastal areas to drown. Had you considered that possibility?? :shhh:

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by heydaralon » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:05 pm

Anyone who think veganism is a healthy option is stupider than Rosemary Kennedy.
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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:52 pm

heydaralon wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:05 pm
Anyone who thinks veganism is a healthy option is stupider than Rosemary Kennedy.
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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by brewster » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:07 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am
Hastur wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:57 am
Now I had to look up what they do with bull calves in India. Turns out holiness can have its backsides.
Wow, that's some industrial scale cognitive dissonance. But perhaps its just par for the course of the human habit of externalizing costs, not much different from us happily burning hydrocarbons till we drown.
Maybe we want the coastal areas to drown. Had you considered that possibility?? :shhh:
Ah, yes, I forgot the only life that is valuable to you is unborn.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:29 pm

brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:07 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am


Wow, that's some industrial scale cognitive dissonance. But perhaps its just par for the course of the human habit of externalizing costs, not much different from us happily burning hydrocarbons till we drown.
Maybe we want the coastal areas to drown. Had you considered that possibility?? :shhh:
Ah, yes, I forgot the only life that is valuable to you is unborn.

Also yoga chicks in the beginning, before the malnutrition catches up to them.

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by TheReal_ND » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:32 pm

brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:07 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:01 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:24 am


Wow, that's some industrial scale cognitive dissonance. But perhaps its just par for the course of the human habit of externalizing costs, not much different from us happily burning hydrocarbons till we drown.
Maybe we want the coastal areas to drown. Had you considered that possibility?? :shhh:
Ah, yes, I forgot the only life that is valuable to you is unborn.
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LMAO

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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Hastur » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:58 am

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It's real.
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Re: The Truth About Veganism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:17 am

Being Vegan Makes You Mentally Disabled, Warns Top Danish Doctor

“Such a diet may involve developing different brain symptoms."


The chief physician at a leading hospital in Denmark has warned that being vegan can cause mental disabilities and other disorders.


Dr. Allan Lund of Rigshospitalet in Copenhagen highlighted the risks of a vegan lifestyle for young people in an ​appearance last week on Danish TV.


“Such a diet may involve developing different brain symptoms, with muscle weakness, poor contact, and epilepsy,” he told TV4. "And in the long term mental retardation."


According to Lund, his hospital has recently treated a number of vegan kids with such problems.


The news program aired amid a national debate in Denmark over the growing phenomenon of parents putting their children on a plant-based diet.


Lunds' medical opinion will likely come as no surprise to some Americans. Last week, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, an animal rights group that advocates veganism, tweeted out a chart of common sayings that it deemed "anti-animal" and so forbidden.


Amid widespread mockery of the PETA's intellect, it followed-up by explicitly comparing animal rights to those of African-Americans and gays, effectively one-upping its attempt days earlier to co-opt feminism.


The United States also has its fair share of progressive ​parenting ​trends ― from ​empowering children to pick their ​gender to ​teaching them social media values ― that may or may not be good for American youth.
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We have even seen this phenomenon here.