Capitalism Cures Poverty

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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:45 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:It is no more virtue signalling than all this nonsense about helicopters.

Fine by me, we all display our plumage, just to different crowds I guess.
Well I don't think chucking people out of helicopters is a virtuous thing to do, I recognize that it's an evil to do, but that's war, it's not about virtue, it's a dirty job indeed, but y'know, just win baby.

If it's signalling, It's the counterpoint to virtue signalling, necessary evil signalling as it were.

Here's the signal; If you want to be free of totalitarianism, it's not going to be by marquis of queensbury rules, you're gonna have to get dirtied up, whether that means chucking it out of a helicopter, or nuking it with a hydrogen bomb.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 am

Agitating for better wages and conditions isn't a virtuous thing to do either.

Simple self-interest. Ideally, mutually beneficial self-interest... but not virtuous.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:30 am

I have the best plumage. Everybody says so.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:30 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Agitating for better wages and conditions isn't a virtuous thing to do either.

Simple self-interest. Ideally, mutually beneficial self-interest... but not virtuous.
I disagree. Higher wages based on "I have a kid" are not rational or responsible. How can a business meet its employees' needs ahead of its customers' needs?

The real question is, what is in society's best interests? Certainly people being able to raise their kids is in society's favor but how is that the responsibility of Mom & Pop Grocery Store? If society wants higher wages, society should pay for them. The Republicans just proved that deficits don't matter, so print more money and subsidize low-wage employees up to the wage society wants. All you advocates of Basic Income should be behind this idea.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:50 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Agitating for better wages and conditions isn't a virtuous thing to do either.

Simple self-interest. Ideally, mutually beneficial self-interest... but not virtuous.
I disagree. Higher wages based on "I have a kid" are not rational or responsible. How can a business meet its employees' needs ahead of its customers' needs?

The real question is, what is in society's best interests? Certainly people being able to raise their kids is in society's favor but how is that the responsibility of Mom & Pop Grocery Store? If society wants higher wages, society should pay for them. The Republicans just proved that deficits don't matter, so print more money and subsidize low-wage employees up to the wage society wants. All you advocates of Basic Income should be behind this idea.
I'm nowhere near certain Basic Income is a good idea, or even a comprehensible one, but we can shift around who pays the tab on a living wage all you like.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by DBTrek » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:57 am

For the record, the OP title is the video title. And basic income is a terrible idea that falsely values human life to the point of devaluing it long term.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:58 am

As I understand it, UBI is impossible anyway, because it would be eaten by inflation...
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by DBTrek » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:01 am

There’s the small problem of population growth and unreliable national economic performance that never is addressed as well. But people selling pie in the sky don’t ever want to talk ingredients.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by StCapps » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:01 am

DBTrek wrote:For the record, the OP title is the video title. And basic income is a terrible idea that falsely values human life to the point of devaluing it long term.
Works better than minimum wage.
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Re: Capitalism Cures Poverty

Post by DBTrek » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:02 am

StCapps wrote:Works better than minimum wage.
/shrugs
Where?

Derp.
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