Grammarly.

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Re: Grammarly.

Post by Fife » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:19 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Couldn't one of you--for once--end your sentence with a four dot ellipsis?
I'm not asking for something complicated like a five dot ellipsis--nothing that would destroy your precious grammar/punctuation program, &c.....
I see what you did there, et stercore. :snicker:

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Re: Grammarly.

Post by de officiis » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:21 am

The Conservative wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Ellipsical.
Definition

An ellipsis (plural: ellipses) is a punctuation mark consisting of three dots.

Use an ellipsis when omitting a word, phrase, line, paragraph, or more from a quoted passage. Ellipses save space or remove material that is less relevant. They are useful in getting right to the point without delay or distraction:

Full quotation: "Today, after hours of careful thought, we vetoed the bill."

With ellipsis: "Today … we vetoed the bill."

Although ellipses are used in many ways, the three-dot method is the simplest. Newspapers, magazines, and books of fiction and nonfiction use various approaches that they find suitable.

Some writers and editors feel that no spaces are necessary.

Example: I don't know…I'm not sure.

Others enclose the ellipsis with a space on each side.

Example: I don't know … I'm not sure.

Still, others put a space either directly before or directly after the ellipsis.

Examples:
I don't know …I'm not sure.
I don't know… I'm not sure.

A four-dot method and an even more rigorous method used in legal works require fuller explanations that can be found in other reference books.
So I still ask the question, and I think with my grasp of the question, I don't need to. Especially since I'm not writing in legalese.
Three periods are used to indicate a break in the middle of a sentence. When indicating an omission at the end of a sentence, four are used.
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:25 am

If I... .... ...do this,

is it ellipsception?
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:29 am

de officiis wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Ellipsical.
Definition

An ellipsis (plural: ellipses) is a punctuation mark consisting of three dots.

Use an ellipsis when omitting a word, phrase, line, paragraph, or more from a quoted passage. Ellipses save space or remove material that is less relevant. They are useful in getting right to the point without delay or distraction:

Full quotation: "Today, after hours of careful thought, we vetoed the bill."

With ellipsis: "Today … we vetoed the bill."

Although ellipses are used in many ways, the three-dot method is the simplest. Newspapers, magazines, and books of fiction and nonfiction use various approaches that they find suitable.

Some writers and editors feel that no spaces are necessary.

Example: I don't know…I'm not sure.

Others enclose the ellipsis with a space on each side.

Example: I don't know … I'm not sure.

Still, others put a space either directly before or directly after the ellipsis.

Examples:
I don't know …I'm not sure.
I don't know… I'm not sure.

A four-dot method and an even more rigorous method used in legal works require fuller explanations that can be found in other reference books.
So I still ask the question, and I think with my grasp of the question, I don't need to. Especially since I'm not writing in legalese.
Three periods are used to indicate a break in the middle of a sentence. When indicating an omission at the end of a sentence, four are used.

Not always.

http://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/ ... e_dots.htm
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by de officiis » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:34 pm

Yes, your reference confirms my point: "If an ellipsis is used to replace words that end a quoted sentence, then it is usual to use 4 dots: three for the ellipsis and one (a full stop or period ) to end the quotation."
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by DBTrek » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:37 pm

Learned something today.
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by de officiis » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:50 pm

Other rules regarding omissions:

Never use an ellipsis to begin a quotation, or when individual words are merely altered.

When using quoted language as a phrase or clause, rather than as a full sentence, do not indicate omission of matter before or after a quotation.

Where language beginning the original sentence has been deleted, capitalize the first letter and place it in brackets if it is not already capitalized. If the sentence begins the quotation, do not otherwise indicate any omission.

Do not indicate the deletion of matter after the period or other final punctuation that concludes a final quoted sentence. If language after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and the sentence is followed by further quotation, however, retain the punctuation at the end of the sentence and insert an ellipsis before the remainder of the quotation.

If language both at the end and after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and followed by further quotation, use only one ellipsis to indicate both of the omissions.

There are additional rules regarding the use of ellipses and the omission of material from paragraphs, but I will charge a fee to share those.
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by The Conservative » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:04 pm

de officiis wrote:Other rules regarding omissions:

Never use an ellipsis to begin a quotation, or when individual words are merely altered.

When using quoted language as a phrase or clause, rather than as a full sentence, do not indicate omission of matter before or after a quotation.

Where language beginning the original sentence has been deleted, capitalize the first letter and place it in brackets if it is not already capitalized. If the sentence begins the quotation, do not otherwise indicate any omission.

Do not indicate the deletion of matter after the period or other final punctuation that concludes a final quoted sentence. If language after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and the sentence is followed by further quotation, however, retain the punctuation at the end of the sentence and insert an ellipsis before the remainder of the quotation.

If language both at the end and after the end of a quoted sentence is deleted and followed by further quotation, use only one ellipsis to indicate both of the omissions.

There are additional rules regarding the use of ellipses and the omission of material from paragraphs, but I will charge a fee to share those.

You realize I enjoy writing, please don't make my brain hurt with rules that I have no intention of either following or bend to such a degree that I don't care either way :P
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by Hastur » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:46 pm

I like to promote the the Oxford comma. I makes life better.
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Re: Grammarly.

Post by MilSpecs » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:46 pm

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Couldn't one of you--for once--end your sentence with a four dot ellipsis?
How dare you imply that I would end a sentence with a three dot ellipsis? I would sooner dangle a participle.
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