Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

[K@th]

I don't think you can compare Japanese with white. Do the Japanese want to live with Vietnamese, Chinese, Koreans, other Asians?

I don't believe there's "White" culture. There's German culture, French culture, Italian culture (wait, are Italians white? ) etc.

I'd hate to have to live in a place where before approval to enter, I have to pass a DNA test to prove I'm 100% white. Sheesh.. sounds horrible.

White nationalists are flocking to genetic ancestry tests. Some don’t like what they find

[Speaker to Animals]

You are the one arguing against free association here. I am not sure what your point is. To argue against ethno-nationalism is, by default, an argument against free association. Surely, people should have the right to live in a racially homogeneous society if they want?

To claim you are against the very idea of a white ethno-state anywhere is, by default, a position against the freedom of association for whites (or at least a severe abridgment thereof).

So much Orwellian language coming from you guys..

Just stop and think about how absurd your position really is. Do you oppose the Japanese people having their own ethno-state (Japan)? Probably not. But as soon as we are talking about whites, ethno-states become some kind of boogieman for you. Has it not occurred to you that many whites still want their ethno-states? Who do you think you are deciding they don't get to have one?

You clearly don't understand my point because I am not arguing against the 'very idea of a white ethno-state anywhere.' I am arguing that ethno-states, in general, are impractical, restrictive, and don't solve any actual problems. Some abstract, pie-in-the-sky idea about an ill-defined area where similar people live does not an ethno-state make.

To make it a state, it would require laws. To make it an ethno-state would require laws that restrict association by definition. Furthermore, the principles of an ethno-state practically ensure it will be in conflict with her neighbors. The only way around this is having some larger system that maintains peace between these proposed states, which pretty much eliminates the ethno part of the ethno-state don't it. Looks a lot like what we currently have, in fact. You are free to live in a whiter part of America if you think that is an important component to a quality life.

Japan is a great example of an ethno state (suspect as that definition is) not working, since they are currently doing everything they can to bring people into their economy to support their ageing population. This includes promoting immigration.

Dude, what??

Ethno-states were the default state of affairs for thousands of years. They work just fine. The problem, as we are seeing again, is that the so-called "multicultural" states do NOT work out. We are turning the entire western world into the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and it's set to collapse soon. It's not working, dude. Do you not read the papers? Do you not see and hear these people constantly bitching about how horrible it is to live in a white patriarchal hell hole that is America? Have you noticed people protesting and shitting all over fallen soldiers at football games because black criminals got shot somewhere?

THIS. DOES. NOT. WORK.

[Speaker to Animals]

Is "Ethno State" supposed to mean something different than "nation state"? If so, what?

Well, at one time, it didn't mean anything different. But people created a new entity: the Marxist Utopian State. Or the Bonobo Masturbation Society. Lots of people named it, but none of them reflect well on those defending it. I was sort of waiting for them to define it.

[Speaker to Animals]

I am really trying to wrap my mind around this:

(1) Free association should be respected as a fundamental human right.

(2) White ethno-states should not be allowed.


Somebody please explain that one.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Have you noticed people protesting and shitting all over fallen soldiers at football games because black criminals got shot somewhere?

I wasn't aware that we had been saluting/pledging/defending the Dead Soldier Flag this whole time.. I thought it meant something else, actually.

[StCapps]

I call you a SIFCLF while rebutting your idiotic arguments, it's not an either or thing, you might stop reading the second you spot the acronym but you're just mad I've got a clever catch phrase that sums up well over half of your posts.
/shrugs

Nah, it's just a pathetic attempt by a guy with a high school education to weasel out of an argument. It's easy when you just dismiss somebody with some label and call them names. Then all your similarly low-brow buddies pat each other on the back for a job well done. But it's not well done. The forum is basically divided into college-educated people making arguments and dipshits calling others names to escape argument.

I don't have a problem with you calling me names. I just think the attempt to get out of an argument reflects poorly on the forum and generally wastes the intelligent people's time.

Make a list of people who think this is an effective argument (calling somebody a name and walking away) and put a check mark by the person with a college education. Yeah.. no checks. See the problem here?

What if every time you tried to make an argument, I just said, "He's just college-deficient, no need to respond to his argument"?

No self awareness whatsoever, you literally do all the things you claim are arguing in bad faith, you make the "college-deficient" argument and walk away with no argument all the damn time. Keep digging, all while thinking you are actually winning the argument. At least when I call you a SIFCLF, I make an argument to rebut you as well, you don't even go that far. Having a college education doesn't separate the good arguments from the bad in here, you're just pimping credentials and appealing to authority, which also isn't an argument.

[Montegriffo]

Have you noticed people protesting and shitting all over fallen soldiers at football games because black criminals got shot somewhere?

So much distortion of the truth in so few words.

[StCapps]

The media says the sky is falling, they must be right! Do you not see the protests that they give a lot of airtime to, and how they clearly show that the downfall of western civilization is imminent?

THIS DOES NOT WORK!
*Autistic Screech*

SIFCLF to Animals argument in a nutshell. If you don't buy into media hyperbole when they give a spotlight to vocal fringe groups for the ratings, you must be an enemy of Western Civilization!

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

You are the one arguing against free association here. I am not sure what your point is. To argue against ethno-nationalism is, by default, an argument against free association. Surely, people should have the right to live in a racially homogeneous society if they want?

To claim you are against the very idea of a white ethno-state anywhere is, by default, a position against the freedom of association for whites (or at least a severe abridgment thereof).

So much Orwellian language coming from you guys..

Just stop and think about how absurd your position really is. Do you oppose the Japanese people having their own ethno-state (Japan)? Probably not. But as soon as we are talking about whites, ethno-states become some kind of boogieman for you. Has it not occurred to you that many whites still want their ethno-states? Who do you think you are deciding they don't get to have one?

You clearly don't understand my point because I am not arguing against the 'very idea of a white ethno-state anywhere.' I am arguing that ethno-states, in general, are impractical, restrictive, and don't solve any actual problems. Some abstract, pie-in-the-sky idea about an ill-defined area where similar people live does not an ethno-state make.

To make it a state, it would require laws. To make it an ethno-state would require laws that restrict association by definition. Furthermore, the principles of an ethno-state practically ensure it will be in conflict with her neighbors. The only way around this is having some larger system that maintains peace between these proposed states, which pretty much eliminates the ethno part of the ethno-state don't it. Looks a lot like what we currently have, in fact. You are free to live in a whiter part of America if you think that is an important component to a quality life.

Japan is a great example of an ethno state (suspect as that definition is) not working, since they are currently doing everything they can to bring people into their economy to support their ageing population. This includes promoting immigration.

Dude, what??

Ethno-states were the default state of affairs for thousands of years. They work just fine. The problem, as we are seeing again, is that the so-called "multicultural" states do NOT work out. We are turning the entire western world into the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and it's set to collapse soon. It's not working, dude. Do you not read the papers? Do you not see and hear these people constantly bitching about how horrible it is to live in a white patriarchal hell hole that is America? Have you noticed people protesting and shitting all over fallen soldiers at football games because black criminals got shot somewhere?

THIS. DOES. NOT. WORK.

The default state of affairs for thousands of years was near constant conflict, autocratic states, and civil strife.

I don't take the complaints of some of the most well off sections of the global 1% bitching in Salon as seriously as you do. Nor do I fantasize about a lost imaginary Eden of imaginary ethno-states free of strife.

THIS.IS.WORKING.FINE.

[StCapps]

People on the internet are complaining, the end of Western Civilization is nigh!


SIFCLFs always think the sky is falling, who knew?