Disney's Beauty and the Beast gay controversy

[Hwen Hoshino]

Actually part of the reason Germans took to fascism was to remove degeneracy. Look up pornography during the Weimar Republic sometime. There was hardly anything we wouldn't recognize being pushed back then.

I assume they were free to publish their type of press and could make laws about not letting under 12 year olds into the newstands etc. Why is porn a degenaracy?

The push back against degeneracy is already beginning.

There is the stupid Backpage nonsense but not much else. it would be nice to see Ivanka stand up for her former colleagues.

The history channel loves to show us the Nazis burning books. The neglect to mention they were pirnographic and communist literature. They won't even tell you how they had pornography on the street at the eye level of children.

Why should those be burned?

[atanamis]

First off I'm Gen X and not a millennial. Secondly we don't agree with all the outside of marriage sex. Yes I know it happens all the time and almost all of us have done that before we got married, me included. However it should not be celebrated and the same goes for homosexual sex. Yes it happens, to a very small number of our overall population but we should not be celebrating it either. That is my point. Children are extremely impressionable and to have parents unknowingly subjecting them to that is wrong. There is a real problem in our modern culture and apparently you are too fucking stupid or brain washed to see it. Kids as young as 12 are getting caught sexting. You don't see a problem with that?????? Gee I wonder where they learned that shit? It's our modern culture and the encroachment of immoral liberal ideology on everyone, even if they did not want it. Disney movies are for kids asshole and while I'm against the "safe space" mentality in general, this is one that should be in place for our youngest. I'm all for live how you want, smoke weed if you want, but I'm firmly against blatant propaganda and I can see it plane as day. You are either a sadistic piece of shit that want to pervert the minds of small children or you are just a complete fucking moron with no moral compass. I hope it's the later.

You're a man child complaining about being made to make parenting decisions. Nobody is telling you that you should or shouldn't let your child watch this. Note:
"If you don't want to go see a musical with gays in it...don't? Don't want to let your kids see it? Don't let them?"
"Expose your kids to what you feel is age appropriate when you feel it is appropriate, and share with them your moral beliefs about the things they see."

What we are telling you to man up about is your entitled mentality that you should be able to let culture raise your kids. You have values and morals you want your kids to share. So TEACH your kids your values and morals. This is the reason you are being called out for feeling you are a special little snowflake who needs to be protected from living in a world where people think differently from you on a topic. I brought up sexuality outside marriage because this IS something I believe in, practiced, and teach. Is everyone (ANYONE?) going to share my values? Maybe not. Will my kids (when / if I have them) decide that their own physical pleasure outweighs the psychological, medical, and religious reasons why I think they should follow my beliefs? I'd hope so, but I am not counting on it. I have a friend who has same sex desires which he and I both agree he shouldn't act upon. But I am supportive to him and acknowledge that what he feels is real.

You want to know why kids as young as 12 are sexting, because lame parents like you are more afraid of talking to their kids than about complaining about the world. You think that by not taking your kids to see a movie that they won't be aware that same sex attraction exists? Maybe instead of trying to hide the world from them you should let them see it, and then TALK to them about what it means? I'm not a parent, and understand that my advice as such (legitimately) means little to those who are. That said, parenting isn't about pointing your kids at a TV and letting them learn whatever is fed to them. It is about watching things with them and discussing what you see and what it means.

"Disney movies are for kids asshole and while I'm against the "safe space" mentality in general, this is one that should be in place for our youngest. I'm all for live how you want, smoke weed if you want, but I'm firmly against blatant propaganda and I can see it plane as day."

Yeah, you're against safe spaces unless they affect you. You're in favor of let live unless it is speech you find offensive. You're a regular open minded libertarian guy, not a whiny self-entitled child expecting the world to do your work for you.

[TheReal_ND]

I watched Disney movies in preschool and grade school all the time. Especially when it was a substitute teacher. Nobody ran that by my parents first. Who's to say some cat lady won't be showing this to my son when he goes to school?

[Speaker to Animals]

I watched Disney movies in preschool and grade school all the time. Especially when it was a substitute teacher. Nobody ran that by my parents first. Who's to say some cat lady won't be showing this to my son when he goes to school?

That's exactly the intent. They know that this will be shown to kids in government schools. How many schools have movie days now? Pretty much all of them. "Oh, I know, let's play the latest Beauty and the Beast".

[TheReal_ND]

Oh oh that's just an accident of circumstance. Nobody is making your son watch these things! If you don't like it, raise your son and be nice to your wife next time if you don't like her taking him away!

[BjornP]

Oh Fuck you. Its fucking propaganda and if you're too retarded to fucking see that then go back to your utopia fucking bubble mooseknuckle and STFU. I mean my God if you were born in 1920 and lived in Germany you most likely would end up a Nazi because of your weak brain that allows obvious propaganda to take root as fact.

LOL.

Yeah. I'm, like, literally a Nazi for suggesting you stop whining - unironically - about pop culture not giving a shit about your sensitive minority feelings. Having people see it as normal that who they fuck or love is none of the state or anybody's business but their own, is like... totally Fascist, man.


Join that drum circle, SE.

And +1 atanamis. I, and it seems atanamis, isn't either, mocking you to shit on you. I'm trying to shame you into a little introspection. Not about gays, you can feel how you like about them all day long, but that it's not some sort of huge, evil, injustice that a majority of people happen to consider being gay socially acceptable. That's just the society you live in. You're suppposed to be free, the homo-accepting society around you is supposed to be free, and your kids... at least when they turn adult, are supposed to be free. To choose and believe.

Teaching them that the main reason other people think significantly differently than them, is because they're somehow behaving in an unjust manner toward you, that they're "really" some form of bigots against your beliefs and lifestyle... that would set them up for a life of not wanting to, or simply not being accustomed to, taking personal responsibility and blaming everybody else for any failure to convince others.

Take that piece of advice however way you want it, dude.

Guys, I don't think he's really whining. He's just bringing up a subject for the discussion.

So are SJW's who are "just bringing up" how every white guy's a racist. Doesn't mean we don't mock them, does it?

Majority culture and majority values are not "propaganda" just because they offend the delicate panty bunchings of the minority. SE's part of a minority and he's whining and pretending that he's a poor victim who can't go anywhere without seeing gays being accepted as normal. You're a kind soul, Carlus (not being sarcastic here) so I'm sure you can sympathize with him and his..."plight". I, however, didn't participate, mock, and agree [/]in the mocking of SJWs in the DCF and MHF threads, just to see the anti-SJW's here take on SJW victim-playing narratives for themselves. It demeans them, and I hate it when people demean themselves.

[TheReal_ND]

[SilverEagle]

First off I'm Gen X and not a millennial. Secondly we don't agree with all the outside of marriage sex. Yes I know it happens all the time and almost all of us have done that before we got married, me included. However it should not be celebrated and the same goes for homosexual sex. Yes it happens, to a very small number of our overall population but we should not be celebrating it either. That is my point. Children are extremely impressionable and to have parents unknowingly subjecting them to that is wrong. There is a real problem in our modern culture and apparently you are too fucking stupid or brain washed to see it. Kids as young as 12 are getting caught sexting. You don't see a problem with that?????? Gee I wonder where they learned that shit? It's our modern culture and the encroachment of immoral liberal ideology on everyone, even if they did not want it. Disney movies are for kids asshole and while I'm against the "safe space" mentality in general, this is one that should be in place for our youngest. I'm all for live how you want, smoke weed if you want, but I'm firmly against blatant propaganda and I can see it plane as day. You are either a sadistic piece of shit that want to pervert the minds of small children or you are just a complete fucking moron with no moral compass. I hope it's the later.

You're a man child complaining about being made to make parenting decisions. Nobody is telling you that you should or shouldn't let your child watch this. Note:
"If you don't want to go see a musical with gays in it...don't? Don't want to let your kids see it? Don't let them?"
"Expose your kids to what you feel is age appropriate when you feel it is appropriate, and share with them your moral beliefs about the things they see."

What we are telling you to man up about is your entitled mentality that you should be able to let culture raise your kids. You have values and morals you want your kids to share. So TEACH your kids your values and morals. This is the reason you are being called out for feeling you are a special little snowflake who needs to be protected from living in a world where people think differently from you on a topic. I brought up sexuality outside marriage because this IS something I believe in, practiced, and teach. Is everyone (ANYONE?) going to share my values? Maybe not. Will my kids (when / if I have them) decide that their own physical pleasure outweighs the psychological, medical, and religious reasons why I think they should follow my beliefs? I'd hope so, but I am not counting on it. I have a friend who has same sex desires which he and I both agree he shouldn't act upon. But I am supportive to him and acknowledge that what he feels is real.

You want to know why kids as young as 12 are sexting, because lame parents like you are more afraid of talking to their kids than about complaining about the world. You think that by not taking your kids to see a movie that they won't be aware that same sex attraction exists? Maybe instead of trying to hide the world from them you should let them see it, and then TALK to them about what it means? I'm not a parent, and understand that my advice as such (legitimately) means little to those who are. That said, parenting isn't about pointing your kids at a TV and letting them learn whatever is fed to them. It is about watching things with them and discussing what you see and what it means.

"Disney movies are for kids asshole and while I'm against the "safe space" mentality in general, this is one that should be in place for our youngest. I'm all for live how you want, smoke weed if you want, but I'm firmly against blatant propaganda and I can see it plane as day."

Yeah, you're against safe spaces unless they affect you. You're in favor of let live unless it is speech you find offensive. You're a regular open minded libertarian guy, not a whiny self-entitled child expecting the world to do your work for you.

Listen here asshole all you are doing is twisting things to fit your objective. I'm not wasting anymore time on you. You are part of the problem. You really think Kids are sexting and not learning it some where? Parents do talk about it with them asshole but society is shoving shit down our throats without consent. Here is an example. My sister bought a new Amazon tablet for her 8 year old. They opened while we were there. My niece was trying to look up pokemon go stuff and the search pulled up an article about porn and next thing that happend was pop up porn windows. That little innocent girl was crying because she knew what she saw was wrong. My sister had to have a birds and bees talk with her 8 year old because our society is so fucked up that a search engine auto filled porn when she was trying to type pokemon! You just don't want to be inconvenienced when you watch clown porn or whatever the fuck you are into.

[SilverEagle]

Oh Fuck you. Its fucking propaganda and if you're too retarded to fucking see that then go back to your utopia fucking bubble mooseknuckle and STFU. I mean my God if you were born in 1920 and lived in Germany you most likely would end up a Nazi because of your weak brain that allows obvious propaganda to take root as fact.

LOL.

Yeah. I'm, like, literally a Nazi for suggesting you stop whining - unironically - about pop culture not giving a shit about your sensitive minority feelings. Having people see it as normal that who they fuck or love is none of the state or anybody's business but their own, is like... totally Fascist, man.


Join that drum circle, SE.

And +1 atanamis. I, and it seems atanamis, isn't either, mocking you to shit on you. I'm trying to shame you into a little introspection. Not about gays, you can feel how you like about them all day long, but that it's not some sort of huge, evil, injustice that a majority of people happen to consider being gay socially acceptable. That's just the society you live in. You're suppposed to be free, the homo-accepting society around you is supposed to be free, and your kids... at least when they turn adult, are supposed to be free. To choose and believe.

Teaching them that the main reason other people think significantly differently than them, is because they're somehow behaving in an unjust manner toward you, that they're "really" some form of bigots against your beliefs and lifestyle... that would set them up for a life of not wanting to, or simply not being accustomed to, taking personal responsibility and blaming everybody else for any failure to convince others.

Take that piece of advice however way you want it, dude.

Guys, I don't think he's really whining. He's just bringing up a subject for the discussion.

So are SJW's who are "just bringing up" how every white guy's a racist. Doesn't mean we don't mock them, does it?

Majority culture and majority values are not "propaganda" just because they offend the delicate panty bunchings of the minority. SE's part of a minority and he's whining and pretending that he's a poor victim who can't go anywhere without seeing gays being accepted as normal. You're a kind soul, Carlus (not being sarcastic here) so I'm sure you can sympathize with him and his..."plight". I, however, didn't participate, mock, and agree [/]in the mocking of SJWs in the DCF and MHF threads, just to see the anti-SJW's here take on SJW victim-playing narratives for themselves. It demeans them, and I hate it when people demean themselves.

If I was part of the minority asshole then Trump would not be POTUS.

[SilverEagle]

BjornP and atanamis. You both would love the world to be all grey. You are both giant pussies that can't make a hard decision. That is all you are and all you'll ever be. Canon fodder is all you'll be good for in the future.