WTF! What was wrong with the Bushes 41 or 43? You really have become a partisan hack bitch.Kath wrote:GOP had both houses & WH from 2003-2007I agree. Very classy family in the White House. First in quite some time. Very refreshing. Nobody will accuse this first family of being classy.MilSpecs wrote:That said, regardless of politics I'll miss having a first family we can be proud of. Good kids and the Obamas clearly have a successful marriage and are still in love after all these years. Good on them.
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Bush 41.... not 43. I stopped counting at Clinton. I'll give you Bush Sr. Classy guy.clubgop wrote: WTF! What was wrong with the Bushes 41 or 43? You really have become a partisan hack bitch.
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You just answered your own question. The GOP had control for periods of about three years at a time, maybe four or five times in living memory, leaving the democrats in control most of the rest of the time. I.e. Minority party.Penner wrote:Okay, that sounds like gaslighting to me. The Republicans were the majority party back in 2003-2006/2007 (and even Kath stated this). This is blatantly wrong on so many levels.Speaker to Animals wrote:Penner wrote:
Damn, in my opinion, that some total erosion on political history right there. I mean you think that the Dems were dominating for 80 years or something? What were they dominating in? I mean I can recall periods where the Rs were dominated in Washington (and it didn't happen within 2010 or something but like the 1990s and the early 200s).
GOP has always been the minority party, until now. That's how bad this defeat was, though I don't think many democrats yet realize how badly they were beaten.
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clubgop wrote:WTF! What was wrong with the Bushes 41 or 43? You really have become a partisan hack bitch.Kath wrote:GOP had both houses & WH from 2003-2007I agree. Very classy family in the White House. First in quite some time. Very refreshing. Nobody will accuse this first family of being classy.MilSpecs wrote:That said, regardless of politics I'll miss having a first family we can be proud of. Good kids and the Obamas clearly have a successful marriage and are still in love after all these years. Good on them.
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That's totally ridiculous to say that. I mean it's the same thing with the Dems, they just lose power for a few years and gain it all back and the cycle just repeats itself. I mean unless Trump somehow outlaws the Dems the cycle of DC insider power will just wash and repeat.Speaker to Animals wrote:You just answered your own question. The GOP had control for periods of about three years at a time, maybe four or five times in living memory, leaving the democrats in control most of the rest of the time. I.e. Minority party.Penner wrote:Okay, that sounds like gaslighting to me. The Republicans were the majority party back in 2003-2006/2007 (and even Kath stated this). This is blatantly wrong on so many levels.Speaker to Animals wrote:
GOP has always been the minority party, until now. That's how bad this defeat was, though I don't think many democrats yet realize how badly they were beaten.
To say that one party has never been fully in control of DC is, IMO, ridiculous. The Republicans have controlled DC in the past and one day the Dems will gain power back from the Rs. It's all, IMO, cyclical at this point.
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Nothing was wrong with either family. W also appeared to be happily married and his kids were refreshingly normal. Also, watch your mouth. We have a cafone entering the White House and my already-low tolerance for cafones is decreasing.clubgop wrote:WTF! What was wrong with the Bushes 41 or 43? You really have become a partisan hack bitch.Kath wrote:GOP had both houses & WH from 2003-2007I agree. Very classy family in the White House. First in quite some time. Very refreshing. Nobody will accuse this first family of being classy.MilSpecs wrote:That said, regardless of politics I'll miss having a first family we can be proud of. Good kids and the Obamas clearly have a successful marriage and are still in love after all these years. Good on them.
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Schifoso seemed too harsh.TheReal_ND wrote: cafone
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Penner wrote:That's totally ridiculous to say that. I mean it's the same thing with the Dems, they just lose power for a few years and gain it all back and the cycle just repeats itself. I mean unless Trump somehow outlaws the Dems the cycle of DC insider power will just wash and repeat.Speaker to Animals wrote:You just answered your own question. The GOP had control for periods of about three years at a time, maybe four or five times in living memory, leaving the democrats in control most of the rest of the time. I.e. Minority party.Penner wrote:
Okay, that sounds like gaslighting to me. The Republicans were the majority party back in 2003-2006/2007 (and even Kath stated this). This is blatantly wrong on so many levels.
To say that one party has never been fully in control of DC is, IMO, ridiculous. The Republicans have controlled DC in the past and one day the Dems will gain power back from the Rs. It's all, IMO, cyclical at this point.
Well, you are going to have to take that up with historians then, because apparently between the two of us, I am the only one who took American history as an undergrad.
The assertion that the GOP is historically a minority party isn't taken out of the aether.
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To wit...
Note control of the US Senate since the realignment election of 1932:
Then look at the House:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... _over_time
Note the dominate blue since 1932..
Members of state legislatures over time:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... islatures/
What you just witnessed last November was, in a more limited sense, a reverse of the realignment election of 1932. The GOP just captured the working class and rural voters, caging the democratic party within the cities, which will be insufficient to maintain their historically majority status going forward without drastically altering the situation.
You could see this realignment in the cards years ago. I posted frequently that this was going to happen. You could see the signals in the slow tide of state legislatures and governorships flowing over the GOP. You could see it very easily throughout the Obama administration as this unaccountable president drove increasingly more Americans to elect republicans as a counter to his often lawless policies and actions.
Most importantly, the democrats now own globalism and the so-called free-trade deals that decimated the working class of America, and reduced huge swaths of the middle class to poverty. They own the huge taxes they imposed on the middle class to fund welfare for the poor they created with their bad policies, and the welfare for their corporate donors.
This day was coming for a long time. It wasn't some surprise. I told you guys this was coming all the way back in 2012 and before.
Note control of the US Senate since the realignment election of 1932:
Then look at the House:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political ... _over_time
Note the dominate blue since 1932..
Members of state legislatures over time:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... islatures/
What you just witnessed last November was, in a more limited sense, a reverse of the realignment election of 1932. The GOP just captured the working class and rural voters, caging the democratic party within the cities, which will be insufficient to maintain their historically majority status going forward without drastically altering the situation.
You could see this realignment in the cards years ago. I posted frequently that this was going to happen. You could see the signals in the slow tide of state legislatures and governorships flowing over the GOP. You could see it very easily throughout the Obama administration as this unaccountable president drove increasingly more Americans to elect republicans as a counter to his often lawless policies and actions.
Most importantly, the democrats now own globalism and the so-called free-trade deals that decimated the working class of America, and reduced huge swaths of the middle class to poverty. They own the huge taxes they imposed on the middle class to fund welfare for the poor they created with their bad policies, and the welfare for their corporate donors.
This day was coming for a long time. It wasn't some surprise. I told you guys this was coming all the way back in 2012 and before.