The Space War Thread

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by brewster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:30 pm
brewster wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:21 pm
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They don't make much military sci-fi that I like
How would you even know, if you don't read shit like Pournelle that multiple people here recommend to you?

I haven't read the whole thread, just a few pages here and there, but all I see is a bunch of stolen ideas. Not that that's a bad thing, it's all that Star Wars was. But what makes that stuff work is actual clever writing. You know: story, narrative, dialog, humor, pathos. A wall of Post-It's of cool techno ideas does not a story make.
It's a genre, there are tropes, themes, styles.

mil sci fi fans want realistic as possible military sci fi, they don't want the wheel reinvented

I'm more of a producer, I have a vision for a movie franchise, I lay out the vision.

The producer usually writes the treatment. Movies are collaboration.

If there are writers who like your vision, then you collab.

I can also direct as well, so I do storyboards

I also do concept art
I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:47 am

brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am
I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
Brewster will try and turn everything into a negative. Positive Derangement Syndrome.

He's trying to out compete Zlaxer for the Eeyore of the MHF.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by brewster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:53 am

StCapps wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:47 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am
I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
Brewster will try and turn everything into a negative. Positive Derangement Syndrome.


He's trying to out compete Zlaxer for the Eeyore of the MHF.
LOL, one of my mechanical design clients calls me Eeyore! Right on, Eeyore was a fucking realist!
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:55 am

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LOL, one of my mechanical design clients calls me Eeyore! Right on, Eeyore was a fucking realist!
You know what else is a dime a dozen brewster the jewster? Critics who shit on everything and pathologically focus on negativity.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:55 am

brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am

I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
It was just something to do for fun, I already have money, I said it was just something to pass the time.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:00 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:55 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am

I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
It was just something to do for fun, I already have money, I said it was just something to pass the time.
Brewster The Buzzkill. Ignore the shitty critics Smitty, you pass that time playa. Da jewster is just trying to distract you with fool's math.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:01 am

Let's just go back to talking hockey in every thread.
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:02 am

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Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:01 am
Let's just go back to talking hockey in every thread.
Space Hockey FTW
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by brewster » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:05 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:55 am
brewster wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:28 am

I see. You want to make the same crappy SF by committee that Hollywood already makes. I thought you at least were actually writing words on a page, like a novel or short story.

BTW, you know 99% of what producers actually do? They raise money. They start their careers in the mailroom of a studio or agency, not on set. This is why Hollywood movies are so bad, the people making the creative decisions aren't actually creatives. "Visioneers" and writers are a dime a dozen, bought and sold like commodities. There's often a dozen uncredited writers that have worked on a big Hollywood script.
It was just something to do for fun, I already have money, I said it was just something to pass the time.
Then actually write, rather than pretending to be a movie producer. You don't have tolerance for posers, so why be one?
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Re: The Space War Thread

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:07 am

I, for one, have been digging this thread. Don't let the haters get you down with their Eeyoring and whining about you not writing a Warhammer 40k novel instead.

Fuck the critics and the depressed donkey they rode in on.
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