Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

[K@th]

SIFCLIF

translation, please?

Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggot, catchy no?

Quite catchy, yes.

I'm confused, anyway. I keep hearing how awesome minorities have it in this country, yet white people are scared of becoming the minority. How's that?

[Speaker to Animals]

Well, what I was talking about before was allowing Americans to freely associate. Let us have black communities and white communities and multiracial communities. Let people choose where they want to live.

We could even break this out into regions where laws favor one race or ethnicity moving in rather than the others.

That's your future. That, really, is the ultimate outcome of this open door policy you are defending here. Because I don't know if you've notice, but very few Americans are happy and it's getting worse the more "diverse" the country becomes. Diversity plus proximity equals war, and to avoid the sectarian conflict you and yours has made possible, we need to find some consensus about how to let each other divide up a little and still coexist within some kind of "America".

The more diversity/more unhappiness problem is a correlation, not a causation issue. I can think of a lot of reasons why people might be unhappy unrelated to diversity.

I like the idea of more local control of laws, but think that the founders were correct when they assumed the primacy of federal laws were an important component to a well functioning, economically and militarily powerful and unified country. As such, race-based laws that vary from region to region create some serious logistic problems.

Saying diversity plus proximity equals war is a tautology. Any conflict is going to rest on disagreements, by definition. You can tie yourself in knots trying to show those disagreements are ethnic if you like.

Please. You can't deny the fact that the importation of more nonwhites and nonwesterners has made our nation less-safe, less trusting, and less happy overall. Nobody is happier for it. The people we bring in are constantly bitching. I can't even turn on the television or read the news online anymore without some story about how terrible it is to be a minority in America. Everybody is telling me I have to "check my privilege". Then I look at the fact that violent crime is soaring, we have sharia law zones already emerging in parts of Michigan like they have in Europe, and terrorism is a monthly fucking occurrence.

Give it a rest already. The political position you defend here has resulted in human misery and dysfunction for the most part. It didn't work out well.

If you don't believe that, then imagine taking a random sampling of American voters from 1965 to 2017. Give them a whole year to take it all in, experience the race riots, the terror attacks, the shitting on American fallen soldiers at football games, the BLM marches, etc. Then ask them if they support the 1965 immigration act that made it all possible.. You know what would happen. Don't lie.

This is fucking ridiculous that you would continue to defend this at this point.

[StCapps]

If you don't believe that, then imagine taking a random sampling of American voters from 1965 to 2017. Give them a whole year to take it all in, experience the race riots, the terror attacks, the shitting on American fallen soldiers at football games, the BLM marches, etc. Then ask them if they support the 1965 immigration act that made it all possible.. You know what would happen. Don't lie.

This is fucking ridiculous that you would continue to defend this at this point.

They would vote for it, otherwise they would have elected politicians to vote for a different immigration system, if the people were as disgusted with it as you project them to be, but they haven't done that, and that's because they would actually vote for it. A bunch of politicians could have cleaned up by running a "let's go back to 1965 when it comes to immigration" platform, according to you, yet they didn't, so either the politicians are all retarded and the vast majority wanted to leave those votes on the table for some other politician to pander to at their leisure, or there wasn't all that many votes being left on table by doing so, because people liked the post-1965 immigration better.
/shrugs

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Please. You can't deny the fact that the importation of more nonwhites and nonwesterners has made our nation less-safe, less trusting, and less happy overall. Nobody is happier for it. The people we bring in are constantly bitching. I can't even turn on the television or read the news online anymore without some story about how terrible it is to be a minority in America. Everybody is telling me I have to "check my privilege". Then I look at the fact that violent crime is soaring, we have sharia law zones already emerging in parts of Michigan like they have in Europe, and terrorism is a monthly fucking occurrence.

Give it a rest already. The political position you defend here has resulted in human misery and dysfunction for the most part. It didn't work out well.

If you don't believe that, then imagine taking a random sampling of American voters from 1965 to 2017. Give them a whole year to take it all in, experience the race riots, the terror attacks, the shitting on American fallen soldiers at football games, the BLM marches, etc. Then ask them if they support the 1965 immigration act that made it all possible.. You know what would happen. Don't lie.

This is fucking ridiculous that you would continue to defend this at this point.

Human misery and dysfunction don't seem restricted to any particular time, place, or policy.

Violent crime has been dropping to its pre-1960, post 1900 levels for 3 decades. Three decades of neo-liberal globalism, I might add.

[Montegriffo]

SIFCLF to A wants apartheid he's just too dishonest to admit it.

[StCapps]

SIFCLF to A picks his battles very poorly when it comes to arguing for a white ethno state, and when people call him out on that, he lashes out and assumes that anyone who disagrees with him is against the very idea, his brain automatically resorts to a strawman, his brain can't compute any level of nuance. You're either with us or against us, good vs. evil, simplistic binary narratives, that's all he understands. Basically any time he gets in an argument that he's losing, you're either on his side 100%, or you're against all of western civilization, or some such bullshit, if it weren't so comical, it would be tiresome.

[K@th]

if it weren't so comical, it would be tiresome.

Why can't it be both?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

SIFCLF to A picks his battles very poorly when it comes to arguing for a white ethno state, and when people call him out on that, he lashes out and assumes that anyone who disagrees with him is against the very idea, his brain automatically resorts to a strawman, his brain can't compute any level of nuance. You're either with us or against us, good vs. evil, simplistic binary narratives, that's all he understands. Basically any time he gets in an argument that he's losing, you're either on his side 100%, or you're against all of western civilization, or some such bullshit, if it weren't so comical, it would be tiresome.

I blame the 'Dark Enlightenment.' This is what happens when a bunch of programmers and comp-sci people start thinking they are historians, philosophers, and political scientists.

[StCapps]

if it weren't so comical, it would be tiresome.

Why can't it be both?

It can, if you want it to be. I prefer to view things through a more entertaining lens, results in a more enjoyable forum experience at the end of the day. Can't let StA get you bent out of shape, it's not worth it, better to just troll him and watch him flail about, give him the rope so he can hang himself. More fun that way, he's all too happy to dig his own grave, believing that doing so is actually winning him the argument.

[K@th]

if it weren't so comical, it would be tiresome.

Why can't it be both?

It can, if you want it to be. I prefer to view through a more entertaining lens, results in a more enjoyable forum experience at the end of the day. Can't let StA get you bent out of shape, it's not worth it, better to just troll him and watch him flail about, give him the rope so he can hang himself. More fun that way, he's all too happy to dig his own grave, believing that doing so is actually winning him the argument.

Mostly I just eye-roll. He doesn't bother me anymore. His level of crazy is quite entertaining.