F35 vs. A10?

[Speaker to Animals]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

[Smitty-48]

Fake News

The F-35 meets or exceeds all performance metrics for combat loaded F-16.

[heydaralon]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

I've seen a lot of R-rated movies, even at a young age where they discuss these adult issues like stealth. You don't need to talk to me like I'm a preschooler dude. I have been exposed to a lot of TV-MA stuff discussing stealth and I know the sacrifices needed. On NCIS, they tried a stealthy entrance into the killer's house and Mark Harmon nearly got gut-shot. That is the kind of world I live in, and even televised it is not recommended for many audiences.

[Speaker to Animals]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

I've seen a lot of R-rated movies, even at a young age where they discuss these adult issues like stealth. You don't need to talk to me like I'm a preschooler dude. I have been exposed to a lot of TV-MA stuff discussing stealth and I know the sacrifices needed. On NCIS, they tried a stealthy entrance into the killer's house and Mark Harmon nearly got gut-shot. That is the kind of world I live in, and even televised it is not recommended for many audiences.

You need to work on your stealth strat into the chick's ass. That's a tricky operation.

[heydaralon]

It will be tough for sure, but so was what Montgomery's men went through in north Africa. Once I am successful with the anal, I will be called the Desert Rat, because that area is usually pretty dry.

[Speaker to Animals]

It will be tough for sure, but so was what Montgomery's men went through in north Africa. Once I am successful with the anal, I will be called the Desert Rat, because that area is usually pretty dry.

The times I went there, I was already lubricated up from normal sex, but I was pretty drunk too, so I dunno. Most of the time chicks sense it is coming and preempt any attempt with a blanket rule against the practice.

[StCapps]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

Yeah well technology has improved enough that sacrificing a little something for stealth still results in an F-35 that is plenty maneuverable, it didn't have to give up as much performance in other areas to be stealthy, than was previously the case, just ask F-22.

You are living in the past, maan. It's not 4th Gen anymore.

[Smitty-48]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

Yeah well technology has improved enough that sacrificing a little something for stealth still results in an F-35 that is plenty maneuverable, it didn't have to give up as much performance in other areas to be stealthy, than was previously the case, just ask F-22.

You are living in the past, maan. It's not 4th Gen anymore.

You have to compare apples to apples.

F-16 or F/A-18 loaded with fuel and weapons for combat.

In airshow mode, with no weapons and minimum fuel, the 4G stats are better than F-35. Not hugely better, but better.

But when combat loaded with the same fuel and weapons, F-35 jumps out into the lead with the better combat loaded performance.

Not an airshow jet. Purely operational.

[StCapps]

It actually has terrible maneuverability, dude. You had to sacrifice that for stealth. The F-16 is far more maneuverable than an F-35.


You need to understand that these design decisions have trade-offs. If you want stealth, you are going to lose range, payload, and maneuverability. That's how aerospace engineering works. It's always trade-offs.

Yeah well technology has improved enough that sacrificing a little something for stealth still results in an F-35 that is plenty maneuverable, it didn't have to give up as much performance in other areas to be stealthy, than was previously the case, just ask F-22.

You are living in the past, maan. It's not 4th Gen anymore.

You have to compare apples to apples.

F-16 or F/A-18 loaded with fuel and weapons for combat.

In airshow mode, with no weapons and minimum fuel, the 4G stats are better than F-35. Not hugely better, but better.

But when combat loaded with the same fuel and weapons, F-35 jumps out into the lead with the better combat loaded performance.

Not an airshow jet. Purely operational.

Indeed, and stealth is not quite the performance hindrance that StA thinks it is, if it was, the F-22 would have the same issues, yet he fucking loves the thing and hates on the F-35, makes no sense.

[Smitty-48]

Indeed, and stealth is not quite the performance hindrance that StA thinks it is, if it was, the F-22 would have the same issues, yet he fucking loves the thing and hates on the F-35, makes no sense.

The F-22 adds two things.

Supercruise, which is flying supersonic without afterburners, so supersonic with endurance.

Post stall thrust vector, with the nozzles on the engines.

F-35 does need afterburner to go supersonic.

But so does F-16 and F-18 which were the metrics F-35 was tasked to meet.

The F-35 is able to mimic the rest of the Raptor maneuver envelope, using the evolved version of the F-22 flight control system.

Not maneuverable is fake news, it's like an F/A-18 on steroids, even when combat loaded.