Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:43 am



Some good points. The more nonwhites come here, the worse race relations get. I can see no rational case how bringing even more nonwhites here is going to make things better when it has only made everything far worse up till now.

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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:31 am

I don't think we can talk about a white ethno-state without talking about how it would be achieved. The whole concept of a state rests on viability. This is no different than asking "who supports a post-scarcity Communist utopia? Don't worry about how we will achieve it."

So, sure, build ethno-castles in the sky all day, and I will support every one.

Real ethno-castles? Not really viable.

I mean, take Israel as our example of an intentional ethno-state. It has been nothing but an expensive ass-ache since jump street. Just a hole in the desert you throw money into because a regional ally is valuable.

Who is gonna bankroll this sum'bitch? To get backers, you are going to have to build it in some shit-hole where a rich nation wants to establish a foothold. To get Americans and Japanese to back it I suppose we could build it in a little corner of North Korea or something. Or go to the other team and get money from Russians and Chinese if that falls through. Hard to make the blood and soil/right of return argument on that one though.

Maybe we could take back a part of the holy land for Christendom. Just toss our hat into that ring.

Or we can do Smitty's Anglo-American reconquista of Germany I guess... but, still expensive.
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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:12 am

So in other words, you guys pushed your far-left multicult ideology to the point where now you are saying it's Too Big to Fail. Gotcha.


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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:22 am

I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.
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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:25 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.

I agree, but the question is whether you support white ethno state in principle.

You obviously do not.

Furthemore, this WAS a fucking ethno state before you lot got a hold of immigration policy in 1965. Now you are saying, well, we fucked it up pretty bad, but it's not like you can turn it around now! LOLLOL.

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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by StCapps » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:28 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.

I agree, but the question is whether you support white ethno state in principle.

You obviously do not.

Furthemore, this WAS a fucking ethno state before you lot got a hold of immigration policy in 1965. Now you are saying, well, we fucked it up pretty bad, but it's not like you can turn it around now! LOLLOL.
Well if you can start getting white immigrants to come over and have more kids, then maybe you'll have a solution, until then you are merely slowing down demographic trends, you're not going to stop the demographics from shifting towards a less white America by simply going back to immigration laws pre-1965. Too much time has passed, demographics have shifted dramatically and the minorities pump out more kids, sorry to burst that bubble bro, but America isn't going back to being over 90% white anytime soon, even if they outlawed all non-white immigration, it would take a hell of a long time to get back to a 90% White America. Just because you don't like the reality, that doesn't mean that reality is going reshape itself to fit your worldview.
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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:31 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.

I agree, but the question is whether you support white ethno state in principle.

You obviously do not.

Furthemore, this WAS a fucking ethno state before you lot got a hold of immigration policy in 1965. Now you are saying, well, we fucked it up pretty bad, but it's not like you can turn it around now! LOLLOL.
What is the principle?

What is supposed to be solved? Remember, in early 20th UK, all of the same complaints and arguments were had over the poor, almost entirely white, population there as we have about our poor minority population. The material problems don't go away when you have ethnic homogeneity.

The end state is vague and Utopian, the principle is confused and doesn't seem to address any real problems. How am I expected to support a vague Utopia on principles that haven't been illuminated?

Calling pre-65 America and 'ethno-state' is really stretching the term.
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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:38 am

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.

I agree, but the question is whether you support white ethno state in principle.

You obviously do not.

Furthemore, this WAS a fucking ethno state before you lot got a hold of immigration policy in 1965. Now you are saying, well, we fucked it up pretty bad, but it's not like you can turn it around now! LOLLOL.
Well if you can start getting white immigrants to come over and have more kids, then maybe you'll have a solution, until then you are merely slowing down demographic trends, you're not going to stop the demographics from shifting towards a less white America by simply going back to immigration laws pre-1965. Too much time has passed, demographics have shifted dramatically and the minorities pump out more kids, sorry to burst that bubble bro, but America isn't going back to being over 90% white anytime soon, even if they outlawed all non-white immigration, it would take a hell of a long time to get back to a 90% White America. Just because you don't like the reality, that doesn't mean that reality is going reshape itself to fit your worldview.


Solution: No more immigration. We are full up anyway. Technological advances makes immigration unnecessary.

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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:39 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:I am saying you can't talk about the creation of a state in a vacuum.

I am willing to take the proposition exactly as seriously as those who propose it seem to.

I agree, but the question is whether you support white ethno state in principle.

You obviously do not.

Furthemore, this WAS a fucking ethno state before you lot got a hold of immigration policy in 1965. Now you are saying, well, we fucked it up pretty bad, but it's not like you can turn it around now! LOLLOL.
What is the principle?

What is supposed to be solved? Remember, in early 20th UK, all of the same complaints and arguments were had over the poor, almost entirely white, population there as we have about our poor minority population. The material problems don't go away when you have ethnic homogeneity.

The end state is vague and Utopian, the principle is confused and doesn't seem to address any real problems. How am I expected to support a vague Utopia on principles that haven't been illuminated?

Calling pre-65 America and 'ethno-state' is really stretching the term.

It's not the same complaint no matter how much you try to pretend it is so.

We have a huge population now of nonwhite, nonwestern people who apparently are miserable because all they do is bitch and moan about how awful it is to live in a white society, and it boggles the mind how any of you believe we can make this situation even better by importing even more of them.

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Re: Poll: Who Supports the Idea of a White Ethno State?

Post by StCapps » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:42 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Solution: No more immigration. We are full up anyway. Technological advances makes immigration unnecessary.
Well even if stopped all immigration from non-whites for an extended period of time, it will take decades to get back to a 90% White America, so how successful of a solution would that really be?
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