What show are you watching right now?

[SuburbanFarmer]

Dude. If they were following the novels, there would be MUCH more depth on each family/location. Don't try to end-around my argument.

The show would also take 15+ seasons to finish, and would drag so much as to make it unwatchable. You can't just port the novel over unadapted dude, that shit doesn't make good TV.

...in which case, we would have more time to spend in Westeros, instead of it disappearing forever after 6 more episodes.

And HBO would get 15+ seasons of subscriptions, rather than a massive drop next year.

And people might just get a little bit smarter, a little less tolerant of commercials, and a little more engaged in shows that take the time to build a coherent narrative.

[heydaralon]

Capps you are right that not every show will be as good as Boardwalk Empire, but that doesn't mean that every HBO show now has to be as bad as Law and Order Baton Rogue or CSI. If you take away the hype, the CGI, and the coasting on previous seasons, Game of Thrones has become a soap opera. It is awful. I'm not saying make the show like the books. The books are kind of gay too. Its not too much to ask for them to get some better writers. I truly don't know if the writing this season was better than an average episode of Criminal Minds. That is not hyperbole. It was awful. They have ruined it to the point that nothing that happens in season 8 will make up for it too. Take a lesson HBO: get back to your roots. Make shows based on good characters and good writing not CGI. There is not a single well written three dimensional character left on that show. Not one. These retards couldn't write a thank you note, much less another season. They are truly worthless human beings. What a waste of time. Fuck fantasy. The only thing that could save the show at this point would to just make last season a dream sequence. It turns out that none of this dragon and zombie garbage actually happened and just get back to the real non CGI character arcs. lol I just came up with that as a joke, but it would be a way better approach than whatever those imbeciles have up their sleeves.

[SuburbanFarmer]

I'm pretty sure there is no Season 8...

[heydaralon]

I'm pretty sure there is no Season 8...

I hope there isn't! That would piss off the fans to no end. If I were in charge of HBO I would hype it up and then just cancel it at the last minute and say: "You fucking idiots. All these goods shows got cancelled after one season, and never had enough traction to keep going, but you idiots ate up this Michael Bay bullshit for 7 seasons. Fuck you, I have some artistic integrity, I'm going to punish you by leaving you hanging. You are never gonna get an ending to this show. Now, invest your time in reading and watching good shows and not CGI and gratuitious nudity. This is HBO not TNT. If you want to watch bad tv, watch cable. Enjoy your ads every 6 minutes. FAGGOTS!"

[StCapps]

...in which case, we would have more time to spend in Westeros, instead of it disappearing forever after 6 more episodes.

You said yourself, they ran out of material, yet you want to stretch out the material they did have over like 3x the length that the show currently is? That makes no sense, wrap it up before it actually does fall off a cliff, not after. The actors also age, and this prevents them playing the roles for that long because they will age out of them, there are a bunch of logistical issues that your approach would cause.

What dramatic television show, with a continuing story arch, has ever been good for whole time that it lasted 15+ seasons? I can't think of one, yet you still think it would be a good idea? You crazy fool.

And HBO would get 15+ seasons of subscriptions, rather than a massive drop next year.

Or would people become so bored with the show moving at that pace that they won't get many seasons extra out of it at all? I'm thinking that's what would happen under the GCF plan. If quality is what you are after, then making the show 15+ seasons won't make it better, and if money is what you are after than you still want to wrap everything up in somewhat timely fashion and not milk the entire franchise dry, especially when you have spinoffs in the works.

And people might just get a little bit smarter, a little less tolerant of commercials, and a little more engaged in shows that take the time to build a coherent narrative.

Nah, they'll just get bored and the show won't be the hit show you've come to know, the average person is not going to get smarter and demand HBO release a fantasy TV show that actually is the best show on TV, just because you ruined the one they used to enjoy. That's not how it works. Y'all just need to get over the fact the GoT is not as good as The Sopranos, the sooner y'all do that the better, ruining GoT will not make it as good as The Sopranos either, that's not a solution to any problem.

[heydaralon]

They should have just not made the show period. I would have been fine with that. Its better not to make a show than to make a terrible one.

[StCapps]

They should have just not made the show period. I would have been fine with that. Its better not to make a show than to make a terrible one.

The show isn't terrible. Not making the show would mean one less quality show on television, and it would also the decrease the chances the HBO actually uses the money GoT brings in to fund a better show. If it wasn't for GoT, would they have let "The Leftovers" run it's course with those ratings? I don't fucking think so, hell I'm shocked they didn't cancel it, even with GoT bringing in the money.

What you are actually saying is: "Fuck The Leftovers!" and I for one, cannot condone that reckless adolescent response to falling out of love with a television show like GoT. Take your overreaction, and shove it up your ass.

GoT: thanks for doing HBO the solid they needed to promote better television shows, don't listen to daralon and his butthurt, he knows not of what he speaks.

[heydaralon]

They should have just not made the show period. I would have been fine with that. Its better not to make a show than to make a terrible one.

The show isn't terrible. Not making the show would mean one less quality show on television, and it would also the decrease the chances the HBO actually uses the money GoT brings in to fund a better show. If it wasn't for GoT, would they have let "The Leftovers" run it's course with those ratings? I don't think fucking think so, I'm shocked they didn't cancel it even with GoT bringing in the money.

What you are saying is fuck "The Leftovers" and I for one, cannot condone that reckless adolescent response to falling out of love with a television show like GoT. Take your overreaction, and shove it up your ass.

GoT: thanks for doing HBO the solid they needed to promote better television shows, don't listen to daralon and his butthurt, he knows not of what he speaks.

I only made it through one episode of the leftovers, but it would be a sacrifice for the greater good. If preventing the leftovers would have prevented the last 3 GoT seasons, I would take that deal. Its nothing personal Capps, its whats best for the viewers. Also, have you seen the first episode of the Deuce yet? One of the best pilots episodes I've seen period.

[StCapps]

I only made it through one episode of the leftovers, but it would be a sacrifice for the greater good. If preventing the leftovers would have prevented the last 3 GoT seasons, I would take that deal.

That's only because you haven't seen all three seasons of The Leftovers, if you had, you would never make that deal and you would want to hang anyone who even uttered such a response, even in jest. To the lamppost with you!

Seriously go watch The Leftovers and quit bitching about GoT, For Fuck Sakes. Even if GoT was 100x worse, I'd gladly accept it's existence as long as it subsidized The Leftovers existence. God bless HBO for not cancelling it, thanks in huge part to money brought in by GoT putting HBO in a non-penny pinching mood. The Wire never would have existed without The Sopranos subsidizing it's existence, don't sleep on the impact of shows that bring in the big bucks to any TV network, they often serve their purpose even if they don't deliver in their own right, some other show on the network will.

Its nothing personal Capps, its whats best for the viewers.

No it's not what's best for the viewers, you only care about what you think is best for you, not what you think is best for all viewers. Don't snow.

The Walking Dead might not be my cup of tea, but it's good for AMC, and it's good for TV, even if I myself feel no need to watch it all. It's not doing any harm by raking in the big dollars for AMC, how does that hurt anyone? GoT is much better than The Walking Dead, so it's hurting even less, while still raking in the big bucks for HBO, so again, what's wrong with that?

GoT raises the bar for what the layman considers to be quality TV, that's a good thing. You're jaded and want to lash out at a show you used to enjoy, as if it personally betrayed you, but you're just being dramatic. TV is much better off with GoT existing than not existing, no matter how butthurt about the show you happen to be.

I get that you're annoyed that some people think GoT is the best show on TV because they don't even know what good TV is, but you are overcompensating for their idiocy, and considerably so. Overreacting to an overreaction doesn't make for a well thought out opinion.

Also, have you seen the first episode of the Deuce yet? One of the best pilots episodes I've seen period.

Nah haven't seen The Deuce pilot yet, but I've heard good things, and it's David Simon, so I'm sold.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Watched the first season of Leftovers. That's 10 hours of life that I'll never get back.

Seriously, I cannot understand why anyone wants to sit through that.