poll: was Hitler evil

was Hitler even evil?

Yes
9
75%
No
3
25%
 
Total votes: 12

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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:59 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:54 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:45 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:43 am
Soldiers as political leaders, what do you expect?
Great wartime leaders, shitty peacetime leaders.
That wasn't it, because the people went for it.

The people went for Belgian Neutrality in the first place.

The peacetime leaders started the whole thing in 1914

This is where the conspiracy theory comes from; Jewish Media Fake News.
You seem to forget that Churchill was in the wilderness throughout the '30s.
He was writing books, not leading the country. In fact, he had a hell of a time trying to warn everyone about what was coming. He understood the dangers of fascism and bolshevism. No one listened though because he was written off until he was the only man for the job. Chamberlain or Halifax weren't the men to lead during the war. Nor was Attlee or Bevan.
No, I remember, but he was simply biding his time as all politicians do, he was still plotting his return.

You seem to forget that he pulled it off again, two plotted returns, he comes back a third time,
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:01 am

Bear in mind who he is; John Churchill's kin.

Bear in mind how rich they are.

In Churchill's mind, only he is fit to run the Empire.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:04 am

He was in no position to start WWII though. He was the right man to stick it out till the end when all around him wanted to appease and yield.

''no surrender'' not ''peace in our time''.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:05 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:04 am
He was in no position to start WWII though. He was the right man to stick it out till the end when all around him wanted to appease and yield.

''no surrender'' not ''peace in our time''.
He started the First war by dragging the British in.

He started the Second by dragging the Americans in.

Both wars were not world wars before Churchill intervened

They were theater wars; Franco-Prussian, Russo-Prussian.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:09 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:01 am
Bear in mind who he is; John Churchill's kin.

Bear in mind how rich they are.

In Churchill's mind, only he is fit to run the Empire.
Yes, but his branch of the family were failures and disgraced. He didn't live at Blenheim Palace. His father died from syphilis in his 40's after a failed career in government.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:10 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:05 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:04 am
He was in no position to start WWII though. He was the right man to stick it out till the end when all around him wanted to appease and yield.

''no surrender'' not ''peace in our time''.
He started the First war by dragging the British in.

He started the Second by dragging the Americans in.

Both wars were not world wars before Churchill intervened

They were theater wars; Franco-Prussian, Russo-Prussian.
Japan dragged America in. All Churchill's pleas fell on deaf ears until Dec' 7th '41.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Smitty-48 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:12 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:09 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:01 am
Bear in mind who he is; John Churchill's kin.

Bear in mind how rich they are.

In Churchill's mind, only he is fit to run the Empire.
Yes, but his branch of the family were failures and disgraced. He didn't live at Blenheim Palace. His father died from syphilis in his 40's after a failed career in government.
John Churchill's progeny, commissioned to the Queen's Own Huzzars, who cavalry charged at Omdurman?

He was never "disgraced" until the Dardanelles Strait.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by The Conservative » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:16 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
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Israel must be mighty indeed
No, but when it is the only place in the Middle East not trying to kill the US and the West, you take allies where you can get them.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by Montegriffo » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:16 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:12 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:09 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:01 am
Bear in mind who he is; John Churchill's kin.

Bear in mind how rich they are.

In Churchill's mind, only he is fit to run the Empire.
Yes, but his branch of the family were failures and disgraced. He didn't live at Blenheim Palace. His father died from syphilis in his 40's after a failed career in government.
John Churchill's progeny, commissioned to the Queen's Own Huzzars, who cavalry charged at Omdurman?

He was never "disgraced" until the Dardanelles Strait.
I was referring to his father.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: poll: was Hitler evil

Post by The Conservative » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:18 am

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Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:42 am
Hitler wasn't loyal to Germany or Germans, he was loyal to Darwinian "Survival of the Fittest" Forces, Malthusian Doomsday Predictions, and Nietzschean Will To Power.

If Germany or Germans got in the way of that, then they can rot under Communist rule for all Hitler cared, or burn with the Jews. He didn't give a shit about them, he just pretended to, when it served his purposes. He whined and bitched about Germany being stabbed in the back, and then he went and stabbed Germany in the back worse than any of the people he was decrying.
As I said, Hitler was easily influenced, which is why I said when he got into power, no. Before hand, and before he became corrupted, he probably would have been someone you wouldn't mind hanging out with.

That's the thing, the weak willed are easily manipulated by radical ideas. (Sort of like the DNC)
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