F35 vs. A10?

F35 vs A10?

F35
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A10
11
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:32 pm

Even in terms of the Commander Data Super Duper Drone, the intellectual property in the Lockheed Martin Sensor Fusion Engine is the foundation on which Commander Data's brain will eventually be built upon, so in fact F-35 has America well in the lead of the Europeans in the Super Duper Drone department as well, since that Super Duper Drone will run on the next generation Sensor Fusion Engine.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by StCapps » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:34 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:24 pm
StCapps wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:16 pm
Acting like the F-16 is better, when it isn't even that much cheaper, doesn't have anywhere near the bells and whistles of the F-35, and if you did upgrade the F-16 with a lot of those bells and whistles, it would be more expensive than F-35, that is just flat out silly.
Built in obsolescence. The entire American economy is about building a better mouse trap and then producing it on a scale which the competition cannot, resulting in economies of scale which make the American better mouse trap cheaper than the European ones.
Also resulting in economies of scale which makes the New and Better American Mouse Trap cheaper than upgrading the Old American Mouse Trap with the New and Better bells and whistles.
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:24 pm
Thus is how America came to dominate the market with F-16. F-35 is simply wash, rinse, repeat the proven strategy.

Moreover it comports with MAGA, not only by jobs and intellectual property centralized in the CONUS, it also sells advanced American weapons to allies so they can fight their own wars, while America just hangs back and conducts strategic level deterrence.

Full Market Dominance is Full Spectrum Dominance.
Oh indeed, the more F-35s get ordered, the cheaper it gets, economy of scale for the win.

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by brewster » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm
Main Battle Tank and Air Superiority Fighter sycophants are not dissimilar to WWI Officers who wanted to continue to use Cavalry Charges. MBTs and Fighters may once again fight it out in mass battles, but then again it might be AT-ATs or drones doing all the fighting.
What I've been saying. Fighting the last war, except the last non-asymmetric war was 70 years ago. Drone swarms are the future. We'll either have them, or be facing them.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:40 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm
Main Battle Tank and Air Superiority Fighter sycophants are not dissimilar to WWI Officers who wanted to continue to use Cavalry Charges. MBTs and Fighters may once again fight it out in mass battles, but then again it might be AT-ATs or drones doing all the fighting.
What I've been saying. Fighting the last war, except the last non-asymmetric war was 70 years ago. Drone swarms are the future. We'll either have them, or be facing them.
Or we can just invest in cyberwarfare and seize the enemy's swarms. That's the risk of taking humans out of the cockpit..

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:41 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm
Main Battle Tank and Air Superiority Fighter sycophants are not dissimilar to WWI Officers who wanted to continue to use Cavalry Charges. MBTs and Fighters may once again fight it out in mass battles, but then again it might be AT-ATs or drones doing all the fighting.
What I've been saying. Fighting the last war, except the last non-asymmetric war was 70 years ago. Drone swarms are the future. We'll either have them, or be facing them.
F-35 is asymmetric, China is defeated by market forces, America corners the market, China is boxed out.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by StCapps » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:44 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:39 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:26 pm
Main Battle Tank and Air Superiority Fighter sycophants are not dissimilar to WWI Officers who wanted to continue to use Cavalry Charges. MBTs and Fighters may once again fight it out in mass battles, but then again it might be AT-ATs or drones doing all the fighting.
What I've been saying. Fighting the last war, except the last non-asymmetric war was 70 years ago. Drone swarms are the future. We'll either have them, or be facing them.
America is well ahead in drone tech, and Commander Data tech. The F-35 is built to fight the next war, not the last one and will help work out the kinks in the Commander Data Drone that you dream about. Drone swarms aren't the present, and America is closest to the future of warfare anyway, other nations should be a lot more worried than America about not having the best drone technology, so simmer down SIFCLF.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by brewster » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:44 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:32 pm
Even in terms of the Commander Data Super Duper Drone, the intellectual property in the Lockheed Martin Sensor Fusion Engine is the foundation on which Commander Data's brain will eventually be built upon, so in fact F-35 has America well in the lead of the Europeans in the Super Duper Drone department as well, since that Super Duper Drone will run on the next generation Sensor Fusion Engine.
No argument, but that tech can be run far cheaper in UCAV's. It may already be doing so in the LockMart Skunkworks, no one knows. But we'd not see the benefits of it till it comes out into the light and replaces manned squadrons. Anyway, we can't train and replace the pilots for the squadrons we have in peacetime, imagine what would happen in wartime attrition.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:46 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:44 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:32 pm
Even in terms of the Commander Data Super Duper Drone, the intellectual property in the Lockheed Martin Sensor Fusion Engine is the foundation on which Commander Data's brain will eventually be built upon, so in fact F-35 has America well in the lead of the Europeans in the Super Duper Drone department as well, since that Super Duper Drone will run on the next generation Sensor Fusion Engine.
No argument, but that tech can be run far cheaper in UCAV's. It may already be doing so in the LockMart Skunkworks, no one knows. But we'd not see the benefits of it till it comes out into the light and replaces manned squadrons. Anyway, we can't train and replace the pilots for the squadrons we have in peacetime, imagine what would happen in wartime attrition.
Nobody has said you can't have your Super Duper Drone, but in the meantime, F-35 is fighting the real war, the war to corner the world markets.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by StCapps » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:46 pm

brewster wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:44 pm
Smitty-48 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:32 pm
Even in terms of the Commander Data Super Duper Drone, the intellectual property in the Lockheed Martin Sensor Fusion Engine is the foundation on which Commander Data's brain will eventually be built upon, so in fact F-35 has America well in the lead of the Europeans in the Super Duper Drone department as well, since that Super Duper Drone will run on the next generation Sensor Fusion Engine.
No argument, but that tech can be run far cheaper in UCAV's. It may already be doing so in the LockMart Skunkworks, no one knows. But we'd not see the benefits of it till it comes out into the light and replaces manned squadrons. Anyway, we can't train and replace the pilots for the squadrons we have in peacetime, imagine what would happen in wartime attrition.
Unmanned isn't cheaper yet. Commander Data doesn't exist, and until he does, training the pilot is cheaper.

You want to speed up the arrival of Commander Data? Then you should be sucking the F-35's cock, not bashing it.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:49 pm

Commander Data, should he exist secretly out at Tonopah, is not affordable for export, thus F-35 fills the gap for the next twenty to thirty years until he is.
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