The Fucking Thatcher Thread

[DrYouth]

What is a totalitarian right wing state?

Pinochet?
Who racked up ... what ... 3500 alleged kills?
A few thousand compared to the tens of millions that Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot gave us?
Not even the same league.
Maybe not even the same sport.

Or are you going to try to pin Hitler and his national socialist party on the right wing? Because I think that’s a questionable political attribution at best.

And again, this all goes back to your idea that leftist are better at governing because they look out for the poor and persecuted.
Though often their version of “looking out” for them involves a bullet to the back of the head or a life sentence to a hard labor camp.

Who are you arguing against?

I just gave you Militant Lefties are more unstable than Militant RIghties...
I'll take Totalitarian Right over Left...
Even if we count Hitler as Right wing... He was definitely not a communist... hated the left for being cucks in WW1.
Part of his hatred of the Jews was his not entirely inaccurate view that they headed up the left.

What are you pro-Totalitarianism?
Dreaming Right wing totalitarian dreams?
Who doesn't want the strong leadership of an unchecked strong man with the full weight of the military behind him....
Crack some skulls, fix some problems... It's tempting.
I'll pass.

[DBTrek]

As I said, I’m making the point that I don’t think the left is particularly skilled at governing.
/shrug

[DrYouth]

As I said, I’m making the point that I don’t think the left is particularly skilled at governing.
/shrug

Once again... never said it was...
Too cuckish
Want to please everyone...
Not good at making tough choices...

The influence of the left is important... like the influence of a protective mother...
But when it comes to making the tough choices... A tough dad tends to do best....
But a tough unfeeling dad, all on his own trying to raise kids... without the benevolent instincts... doesn't always go great.

Now just in case you think I'm being all gender biased. (I can hear STA screaming at me.)
Mom's can be tough and Dad's can be sensitive.
An insensitive mother can fuck up kids just as much as anyone.... a narcissistic mom can be a real gong show.
Ideally both parents can play both roles... but we all know some folks are softer and some are tougher...

When the left assumes control is kind of like what happened in my house the other night when my wife went ballistic...
She needs practice wielding power... it's not her forte.
But she's getting better at it.

[DBTrek]

When the left assumes control is kind of like what happened in my house the other night when my wife went ballistic...
She needs practice wielding power... it's not her forte.
But she's getting better at it.

Oh?
Did she beat your brother’s doppelgänger copy of her to death?
More importantly, did the doppelgänger drop any good loot?


Hitler hated commies and he was a proud nationalist, which are certainly traits of the right. Yet his government was extremely intrusive, it exercised price and wage controls, indoctrinated youth through the school system, viewed children as property of the state, leveraged their socialized medicine to carry out Eugenics, etc, etc. All very leftist.

So when you talk about totalitarian right wing I’m not sure who you’re talking about. Maybe Pinochet. Maybe Julius Caesar. I don’t know. Because this century and the last is simply one long parade of communist and socialist massacres as far as the eye can see.

[DrYouth]

Hitler hated commies and he was a proud nationalist, which are certainly traits of the right. Yet his government was extremely intrusive, it exercised price and wage controls, indoctrinated youth through the school system, viewed children as property of the state, leveraged their socialized medicine to carry out Eugenics, etc, etc. All very leftist.

Laissez faire economics and protection of individual liberties are not by definition traits of the right.
In fact these are traits of the Liberal West... literally liberal values.... coming from the same root word as liberty.

Right wing government prop up the ruling class.
Traditionally the large landholders, the nobility, the church when it was important.
Right wing governments can be every bit as intrusive, repressive, paranoid and indoctrinary as any left wing government.

[StCapps]

An insensitive mother can fuck up kids just as much as anyone.... a narcissistic mom can be a real gong show.

You really need to watch The Sopranos dude, get on that shit.

[DrYouth]

An insensitive mother can fuck up kids just as much as anyone.... a narcissistic mom can be a real gong show.

You really need to watch The Sopranos dude, get on that shit.

I've watched several seasons...
I assume you're talking about Tony's mom.... She was an awesome narcissist.

[StCapps]

An insensitive mother can fuck up kids just as much as anyone.... a narcissistic mom can be a real gong show.

You really need to watch The Sopranos dude, get on that shit.

I've watched several seasons...
I assume you're talking about Tony's mom.... She was an awesome narcissist.

Livia Soprano, Queen of the guilt trip. Also the joyless wonder, except when she enjoying the suffering of others.


Also watch the rest of it, I just did a rewatch myself.

[DBTrek]

Right wing government prop up the ruling class.
Traditionally the large landholders, the nobility, the church when it was important.
Right wing governments can be every bit as intrusive, repressive, paranoid and indoctrinary as any left wing government.

In theory?
Or do we have one we can look at?


Wait ... would religious monarchies like Saudi Arabia fit your definition of right wing totalitarian?

[DrYouth]

Wait ... would religious monarchies like Saudi Arabia fit your definition of right wing totalitarian?

And Iran.
Pretty much textbook.