Socialism

[Fife]

Fife: no different than a suicide bomber.

I've been told I'm the bomb quite often, thanks for the renewal of affinities all.





Bring on that precious CO2! My trees are ready to shoot out some new dark green life forms.

Vernal equinox in Flyover America FTW!

[brewster]

If you don't care about the environment, fine.

No, it's not. It's stupid at best, venal in the middle, and viscous at it's worst. It says "I don't give a fuck about the world I leave behind me as long as I get to do exactly what I want". Same as a suicide bomber.

Climate denial is the same as 'cigarettes cause cancer' deniers, in many cases it's the exact same people.

What are you doing about it? Are you consuming less? Hell no. Lol, you said you own multiple fucking properties. Why not tear them down and return the land to the Earth? Once they are occupied by tennants, they will use electricity from the grid and cause more gases to be emitted. Are you having less children? Again, the answer is no. Are you wasting electricity and creating greenhouse gases by posting on this frivolous forum? Yes. You are not even willing to go without this forum or youtube. You waste electricity on fucking Spartacus and Netflix. You probably drive when you could walk, you want the best life possible for you and I'm sure you want your kids to live even better than you did. So again, how is "not caring about the environment" more moral than "caring about the environment but doing absolutely jack shit in actually changing your behavior?" Seriously, explain to all of us the steps you take in reducing population or eliminating growth based economy. I'll bet your carbon footprint is bigger than mine. How many cars do you own? Do you share a car with your wife? Do you carpool to work? Do you ever consider that going to Wal Mart for toilet paper is more environmentally destructive than taking a shit in your yard and wiping your ass with a handful of grass?

This is why environmentalism is such a joke. You don't do a fucking thing different than some random buster on the street who drives a diesel truck and works in an oil refinery, but you act like you are on some moral high ground over him because he hasn't seen An Inconvenient Truth. You implore scientists to invent some magic wand that will change the laws of thermodynamics, but you probably run your A/C when the outside temp gets above 70 degrees. You use every plastic product that is available, just like everyone else, and you eat shit that is flown or sailed across the world just like everyone else because you can't be bothered to garden.

If you have children, then you are not an environmentalist.

What have I said that isn't true?

You are the one in denial my friend.

I know you're just trolling me, but this asinine 'all or nothing' bullshit is really dangerous. Both extremes subscribe to it. The notion that 'you can't be a true environmentalist if you don't kill your kids, raze your house and then kill yourself, so you might as well buy a Hummer and live in a McMansion 20 miles from the nearest place to buy groceries' is simply an excuse to not think at all about what you're doing.

[Haumana]

I know you're just trolling me, but this asinine 'all or nothing' bullshit is really dangerous. Both extremes subscribe to it. The notion that 'you can't be a true environmentalist if you don't kill your kids, raze your house and then kill yourself, so you might as well buy a Hummer and live in a McMansion 20 miles from the nearest place to buy groceries' is simply an excuse to not think at all about what you're doing.

What are you doing though, to mitigate global warming?

[brewster]

I know you're just trolling me, but this asinine 'all or nothing' bullshit is really dangerous. Both extremes subscribe to it. The notion that 'you can't be a true environmentalist if you don't kill your kids, raze your house and then kill yourself, so you might as well buy a Hummer and live in a McMansion 20 miles from the nearest place to buy groceries' is simply an excuse to not think at all about what you're doing.

What are you doing though, to mitigate global warming?

I've raised my family in a 1200 sq ft apartment in an attached apartment building in a neighborhood with a 96 of 100 Walkscore. You know Walkscore? That means being able to live without driving everywhere. My wife walks to work, daughter walks to school, I work at home. I can easily go a week without driving. I'm no 'enviro-saint', but neither am I oblivious or downright hostile to the environment.

You?

[Haumana]

I know you're just trolling me, but this asinine 'all or nothing' bullshit is really dangerous. Both extremes subscribe to it. The notion that 'you can't be a true environmentalist if you don't kill your kids, raze your house and then kill yourself, so you might as well buy a Hummer and live in a McMansion 20 miles from the nearest place to buy groceries' is simply an excuse to not think at all about what you're doing.

What are you doing though, to mitigate global warming?

I've raised my family in a 1200 sq ft apartment in an attached apartment building in a neighborhood with a 96 of 100 Walkscore. You know Walkscore? That means being able to live without driving everywhere. My wife walks to work, daughter walks to school, I work at home. I can easily go a week without driving. I'm no 'enviro-saint', but neither am I oblivious or downright hostile to the environment.

You?

So you live in a city. What is that city's Walkscore, overall? You can't claim a zero footprint while living off of the fruits of a larger footprint.

Me, I live in the country. My only debts are to the cable company for internet, local water company and electric. I venture out once every 3 or 4 weeks to Costco, a 3 hour tour, otherwise it is a 5 minute trip to the local grocery store. I could go months without driving if the need ever arises.

Who is hostile to the environment? Are you slowing global warming or aren't ya?

[Speaker to Animals]

It starts out as a three hour tour. Then you get stranded on an island with two beautiful lesbians who want zero dick, and the gay professor keeps trying to rope you into his "projects".

[Smitty-48]

Unless I'm walking my dogs, I drive everywhere.

I just drove to the convenience store.

It's a hundred yards away.

[Speaker to Animals]

Do you drive out onto the ice to club baby seals, or do you walk that?

[Smitty-48]

ATV

[Speaker to Animals]

Good choice